Darsh,

I have no idea what the ProfilePrism metamerism controls do.  In PP there is a 
metamerism slider but I don't know what it really does.   Like I wrote 
earlier this is a very difficult problem and I don't know anyone that has a 
really good solution. 

Hal

On Thursday 07 July 2005 06:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks  for the reply .
>
> >What software are you using?
>
> I am not using any software .Scanning the IT8 chart using Epson
> scanner(no color correction setting)
> Getting the RGB values for each patch in the chart,converting it to LAB
> by creating a transform between
>  the scanner profile and dummy  LAB profile using lcms library.
> But most of the time when my dE goes offlimits ,it is the "A" value in
> LAB.
>
> What kind of settings is ProfilePrism making to counter metamerism?Any
> idea?
>
> Darsh.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal V. Engel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:32 AM
> To: Darshan Pawaskar
> Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] printer profiling
>
> On Thursday 07 July 2005 02:33 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I am trying to do printer profiling .
> > Normal dE is around 5-6 ,but sometimes it jumps to 15-18 ..and most of
> >
> > the time for green patches . I am using an Epson scanner which has a
> > "florescent light bulb " and not "Light emitting diode ".
> > Any algorithms to counter metamerism ?
> > Any help will be appreciated .
>
> This is a very difficult problem because of the number of variables that
> are
> involved.  I never found a way to get good profiles when using a
> fluorescent
> based scanner with pigment inks (most newer printers are using pigment
> inks).
> The problem is that every ink has different metamerism characteristics
> as
> well as different light sources having different metamerism
> characteristics
> with each ink.   So these two things interact with each other in very
> complex
> ways.   The number of possible variations is huge.
>
> What software are you using?
>
> I am using ProfilePrism (commercial Windows software) and it does have
> some
> stuff built in for metamerism.  Again I was never able to get this to
> work
> with my florescent bulb scanner and my pigment based inks even with the
> metamerism controls.  Others were able to get good results using Epson
> scanners like yours and dye ink printers using this software.  When I
> switched to an LED scanner my profiles improved dramatically.  With the
> LED
> scanner I do not use any of the metamerism controls in ProfilePrism.
>
> So the only advise I can give you is to minimize the amount of
> metamerism at
> the source.  Unfortunately that means using a different scanner.
>
> Hal


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