Hi Stacey,

If you are asking for permission to distribute software with the endorsement

of the church you will have to take it up with Church Headquarters ;) 

Regards,
Manfred Riem
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.manorrock.org/

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stacey
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:26 PM
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Subject: [Ldsoss] Stake/Ward Web Site Utilities

Hi Y'all:

I just found out about this list and recently joined so let me introduce
myself first...

My name is Stacey and my family and I live in the great state of Texas just
north of Dallas.  I have been using open source pretty much since the 80's
when I was a student and systems programmer running BSD 4.2 Tahoe on VAX
11/780's.  Today, some things have not changed...  I still use BSD (Mac OS
X) on my personal laptop, Gentoo Linux on my MythTV
(Tivo-like) box, and use Linux and FreeBSD for work.  So let's just say I
have been leveraging open source to make my life easier for a long time. I
was happy to hear from a friend (Matt Probst) about this list.

I hold callings as Stake and Ward Clerks here in Texas.  As part of my
assignment I keep our stake and ward web pages up to date.  This
includes the calendar, leadership directories, etc.   I also track the
usage and schedule our stake building which is a job in itself given we have
four but soon to be five wards using the building, not to mention the stake
meetings that are scheduled there.  In addition, I create programs to help
our stake leaders do their jobs.  Our stake is very large in both the number
of wards and geography.  We have 15 wards (after Sunday this will be 16) and
our stake boundaries reaches from North of Dallas up and into Oklahoma.
Therefore, I stake does not publish a paper stake calendar nor do we publish
a stake directory of any sort.  We rely totally on the Stake/Ward web sites
that the church has provided for this information.  (Needless to say, we
have saved a lot of money in printing costs.)

If you have used the administrator screen on the stake/ward web site that
the Church provides you may notice it lacks some features that would be
desired.  One such feature is the ability to upload a calendar that has been
created, with say, outlook.  Every year, when we do our planning, our
executive secretary creates the calendar in outlook and then hands me the
data to upload to the web site.  After using the limited input interface on
the Church web site provides I decided to create a better way.  I wrote a
simply perl script that uploads the data from a CSV file.  The script acts
as web client and inputs the data into the HTML/HTTP forms.  This makes
publishing a ward/stake calendar a snap.

In addition, at the request of our stake presidency, I created software that
allows our stake presidency, bishops, and other leaders to download the
calendar data to their computers in iCal, vCal, or CSV formats.
This allows them to have the calendar in their palm pilots, etc.  The script
is set up as a web application (perl CGI).  They go to a form that is hosted
on a web site.  Enter in what month they want, which events (Ward, Stake,
Churchwide), and what format they would like (iCal, vCal, CSV).  In
addition, I require them to enter their LDS.org login information.  The
script uses their login information to access the Church web site so it
knows they have access permission to do so. I also created a similar web
application for downloading ward directory information.

I don't know how the Church office would feel about this kind of software
but would like to share the code with the folks subscribed to this list.  Be
warned, I am not a perl programmer by trade and do most of my programming in
the kernel and system level.  Therefore, it could use the talents of a real
perl programmer to be cleaned up a bit.
However, it works great to make my job as a stake/ward clerk easier.  I have
read on the archive of this list that the Church office doesn't like the
idea of "screen scrapers" given the risk of folks using, say, the membership
data for something like multi-level marketing campaigns (largely an Utah
thing, it seems). Therefore, if the Church doesn't like the idea of me
distributing software that does this then I will just keep it for myself and
my local leaders to benefit from.  If they don't care then I will make it
available to the members of this list.  Please let me know the offical word
about such software.  Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,

-stacey.

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