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> > My experince with computers started in the early eighties, I was a CBM
> > 64 fan, and later migrated to AMIGA. I have most my experience from
> > the AMIGA platform. And THATS what you are looking for my friend:
>
>From my point of view, you ARE the guy in his mid sixties mentioned
> above. ;) My own experience started with a Packard Bell in 1992. My
> original experience started in DOS.
:D Nah, for the record I am 26, but my values and opinions are often similar
to the above mentioned guy :)
Boy! And you still use computers? I mean that didn't put you off ;)
> > Let's have LEAF support m68k based linux. The AMIGA has one of the
> > most loyal & competent userbase around! Many/most of them also have
> > PC's, and many run Linux. That means they could contribute to "both"
> > flavours. I'd like to work on such a variant myself, and I have the HW
> > needed.
>
> What about the old "dead-hardware-platform" problem?
That's not a problem! They need something useful to do with the HW.
Use it for LEAF and it won't be dead, until it stops responding to
power on.
>I've seen news
> stories saying that production has halted or started again a few
> times over; which part of the cycle are we in now?
I dön't much care any more. I do care for all my AMIGAs though, and I'd
love to run LEAF on em. I think many would feel the same, and so to me
this seems irrelevant, or more like an argument pro LEAF m68k.
[...]
> > Another loyal userbase would be the Mac camp., not how sure how
> > compentent/computer littrate they are though ;)
>
> There are some. One LRP person I know who has been doing some
> good work is a Mac loyal.
I am sure! And I sure hope I don't offend anyone with my "style", notice I use
a lot of :) and ;)
> > Well, I'd like to see & work on (current) debian based (i386/m68k) LEAF
> > distros, keep the router orientation, well documented, modular apporach
> > (cater for the expert and the newbie), focus on secrurity (secure by default)
> > , support old/obscure HW, minimalistic by deafault with lots of addons.
> >
> > I'd like to do FW (proxy) addons (packages). Webinterface for
> > administration, and setup scripts (wizard like), MRTG package,
> > easy support/expation to LS, ZIP, harddisk etc...
> >
> > Also the java idea of Charles is GREAT!
> >
> > That was just a brainstorming on what I'd like to see in/come out of LEAF.
>
> It was good. Give us more.
Well, there's the idea with the install thing (se post to Charles about disk img.).
That way one could have a CD which would make an awsome toolkit to build
small systems to simply get the job done, and nothing else.
Given enough add on packages, and a decent routine it would be incredebly
flexible, efficient and powerful!
> > Hope someone want's to help, coz i NEED it BAD :)
>
> We're all here.
Good. I'm glad we seem to share some (a lot) of opinions on what LEAF
(at least part of it) should be.
What do the rest of you think?
> > I also have I ideas on how to organise? Anyone care to hear?
> > (Pls. I am not a David wannabe, this are merly suggestions ;)
>
> Share your ideas. That's what this list is for.
Let me get back to you on this one (need some sleep). :)
> > Well, you tell me ;) I have not run Slack since the early 90's.
> > I installed it on a 386sx just to see what Linux was all about (I love
> > old and limited systems ;)
>
> That's where I started with Linux, maybe '93 or '94.
Kewl, but you stuck with slack? I moved to Red Hat :/ And then soon
to SuSE. I've also looked briefly at Debian & Trustix (The latter being
Red Hat based, I simply installed and removed.)
> > But that's just good though right? Less double work? Isn't the init of
> > slack possible to do on LEAF? If it is then do it :)
>
> In fact, I believe that somebody has build a Slackware-like init
> system for LRP that replaces the Debian init.
>
> It would be easier to do that, just modify it with a less
> crack-inspired init, than it would be to come up with a whole
> new version based on Slackware.
Ok, good. I think you should do that. That shouldn't be to much work
should it? Make a base image (like I mentioned in the post to Charles)
> > BTW: I (my company) wanted to donate a domain name for LEAF, however
> > all three leaf.tld are taken. Anyone have any good ideas?
> >
> > leafproject.org?
> > leaf-project.org?
> > leafdistro.org?
>
> The suggestion, in previous discussion has been leaf-router.org.
That's a good one, would fit in nicely with my brainstorming above.
I personaly like the leaf-project.org as well. Nothing wrong with
having more domains pointing in the same direction either.
Let me know what you think.
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