Per Gustav Ousdal wrote:
> > above. ;) My own experience started with a Packard Bell in 1992. My
> > original experience started in DOS.
>
> Boy! And you still use computers? I mean that didn't put you off ;)
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I had all sorts of bad and
good experiences, but I enjoyed the challenge always.
> > What about the old "dead-hardware-platform" problem?
>
> That's not a problem! They need something useful to do with the HW.
> Use it for LEAF and it won't be dead, until it stops responding to
> power on.
Indeed, was I smoking crack when I said that? Ever since I started
using LRP, my point has always been to utilize old, dead hardware
that would never see use again unless done with LRP (or now, leaf).
Who the hell am I to suggest that the platform being dead should
have any more or less effect than the age/uselessness?
> I am sure! And I sure hope I don't offend anyone with my "style", notice I use
> a lot of :) and ;)
It is required, to make up for the lack of inflection and facial
expressions, to express yourself correctly. Most people don't use
enough emotion in their text. You'll notice that I also heavily
use emoticons and emotions of all sorts, much of the time.
In the event that anyone is offended by the use of smileys or <G>s,
may I respectfully suggest you go to hell and die. ;)
> Well, there's the idea with the install thing (se post to Charles about disk img.).
> That way one could have a CD which would make an awsome toolkit to build
> small systems to simply get the job done, and nothing else.
>
> Given enough add on packages, and a decent routine it would be incredebly
> flexible, efficient and powerful!
This is one scheme which has been discussed for LRP before. This, and
many other good schemes, have not been implemented for any number of
reasons, including such as:
Lots of work to do it
Lack of effort by LRP people such as myself
Any downsides it has are good excuses not to make the effort
Maybe as the Leaf group, we will find that we are more willing to work
for ourselves, knowing that it will gain 'official' approval, than we
were to do things that are renegade in nature and wouldn't be
appreciated properly.
> > That's where I started with Linux, maybe '93 or '94.
>
> Kewl, but you stuck with slack? I moved to Red Hat :/ And then soon
> to SuSE. I've also looked briefly at Debian & Trustix (The latter being
> Red Hat based, I simply installed and removed.)
Well, on and off, Slackware was the only Linux that I knew existed
for awhile; and it always felt superior to me once I found others.
The install program, probably where I spent most of my Linux time,
felt and looked much better than anything else I tried; the
commandline, where I spent the rest of my time, was indeed quite
superior, with colored ls, prompts that told you where you were,
and command-line completion.
Having not been an X person, preferring the commandline (at first,
because I hadn't a machine powerful enough to run X, but later,
just because I like it better), the earlier advantages of RH and
such never affected me. I was Slackware-loyal by the time any
other distribution was competitive and I was capable of fixing
up other distributions to act like Slack.
A personal project that I've never made the effort to realize
has been to try lots of distribtuions, and in fact, lots of
free OSes - in fact, I want to try them _all_. However, I have
never even _begun_ to do this - I did partition my hard drive
up for it when I got a brand new 27gig, but I ended up using
the space for mp3s. ;)
> > It would be easier to do that, just modify it with a less
> > crack-inspired init, than it would be to come up with a whole
> > new version based on Slackware.
>
> Ok, good. I think you should do that. That shouldn't be to much work
> should it? Make a base image (like I mentioned in the post to Charles)
I should track down the package - I'm pretty sure there is one
already, possibly created by David Douthitt (although I know he
has a rc.lrp that's not related).
> I personaly like the leaf-project.org as well. Nothing wrong with
> having more domains pointing in the same direction either.
> Let me know what you think.
The only things wrong with lots of domains:
Cost $$$
Possible confusion among users
Really, the way to do it is to choose one to use as the main domain
name, to be listed everywhere (we _DO_ need the same domain name to
be listed in all listings), then have each extra applicable domain
name point to a mirror. For example:
leaf-router.org -> leaf.sourceforge.net
leaf-project.org -> leaf.c0wz.com
leaf-firewall.org -> leaf.steinkuehler.net
leafrouter.org -> some other mirror
etc.
I suppose leafrouter.org might already be taken by somebody
named "Lea Frouter". ;-)
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