On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, George Georgalis wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 08:47:58AM +0200, Etienne Charlier wrote:
[...]
> >3 You seem very upset by not being able to {use | install} bering on your
> > system and you feel better if you can put the responsability on someone
> >else.
>
> I'm using Bering very differently than most users, isp verses home
> / small office. My needs are very different, it would be good if
> modifications and sharing thereof were easier. This is what I'm working
> towards.
Bering uses the Debian networking scripts (ifupdown), which I do not think
are intended only for home/small office. I also think Shorewall is a very
flexible tool. I could empathize more with your NIH point of view if you
were working with Dachstein, which is very optimized for small network
use.
The one area that LEAF has not been so good at has been redundant
connections. The most robust approach I have seen so far involves scripts
customized to detect specific ping failures that invoke ifup and ifdown
and shorewall restart as appropriate. What has been lacking are EGP
protocol support, I suspect because people doing EGP work haven't been
using Bering. This is a bit of chicken and egg problem. I don't know
details, but Zebra doesn't appear to be up to kernel 2.4 yet.
Regarding difficulty changing Bering: when you get used to the
load-from-scratch approach used in Bering, I think you should find that
its operation is very transparent if you are familiar with Linux and
SysV-style operation. The RCDLINKS bit is a small stumbling block, and
the package format is unusual, but other than that it seems very similar
to my Debian workstation.
The CVS tree will be a valuable addition to the LEAF resources.
Meanwhile, most of us have learned LEAF variants by poking around running
LEAF boxes rather than dissecting and building packages offline... so by
the time we do get around to the package structure it makes a little more
sense. Building a box for remote installation your first time out is
pretty ambitious, particularly when you choose to start replacing major
functionality at the same time.
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