Hi Nathan! 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Angelacos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[snip]
> 
> In my heart, I believe the LEAF model is the safer route.  
> Not perfect, but it 
> adds an additional layer of "defense in depth".    
> 
> While I completely respect those that want to run a router 
> off of a 1.44MB diskette drive, some of us want squid, 
> dansguardian, and samba running (on a local hard disk) AND we 
> want the warm-fuzzy of knowing we can reboot the box to a 
> known state.  (And yes, I have a system that boots from CD-R, 
> partitions the hard disk, formats it, and then makes the 
> cache directories for squid before squid.lrp is loaded.  And 
> no, you don't call it a router at that point. But I still 
> like to think of it as a LEAF box.  :-)  )

Yes, while you could call it a LEAF box, a router it isn't...

I'm not against using the stable LEAF base for other purposes.
One of the funniest for me is the p9100 printserver.
Imagine, something that started off as a router/firewall is now a
Network printserver... But that is ok.

> It would be nice to scale the LEAF way of doing things up, 
> rather than abandon it because we have "larger media needs" 
> or because we need 24x7x365 uptimes.

Sure, I use it with a CompactFlash, I don't even care it is 
read-write all the time.

> 
> As I said in my original post: "Or, then again, its possible 
> I've just 
> completely lost it."   I have a need for enterprise 
> configuration management; 
> but I'm also sensitive to the fact that the LEAF community 
> may not have those same needs.
> 

Sure, expand it as  you see fit, but give that work back to the community.
I'm sure someone will sooner or later benefit from your work.

Despite what I have wrote in the past against some big changes 
to the way things are currently done, I see a true need to evolve, 
whether it is for a central configuration management, or for a 
true easy webconfig.

What I don't see often is the result of that stuff (new ideas),
except of course for the wonderful webconfig you wrote.

In conclusion, I do see your point, even if I don't 'stand by your side'.
:)



Luis Correia   
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