Am Montag, 29. Januar 2007 17:54 schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 12:32, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> > >From a website visitors view the LEAF pages looks like a graveyard of
> > > ideas
> >
> > and projects  - 4 out 5 projects does not show a life sign since 2004 -
> > which is twelve "internet years" ago.
> >
> > Only one is active, but that isn't reflected on the main page...
> >
> > I get a bad feeling, to find an active project I'm part of in a row of
> > and buried under corpses.
> >
> > Does anyone else feel uncomfortable with this situation and
> > representation of the LEAF project?
>
> KP,
> That's why I said months ago bering-uclibc won, and is now in effect
> leaf.
>
> BTW, I just opened a SF SR to remove myself from the phpwebsite related
> projects I participated in. I hope this will allow me to contribute in a
> useful manner here again.

Mike;

it's IMHO not a question of win or lose. I just wanted to point out that the 
webpage does not reflect the ciuurent situation - one active project and a 
few that has been passed away years ago. We do not a representation of these 
facts - and if there will be another active project, I'd be happy to add 
it  - and to give it the same visibility - no question!

(a short note: If one translates LEAF into Linux Embbeded Appliance 
Framework - the current version can be a framework - it's easy to expand and 
it use for other tasks as just as router/firewall - Eric Spakman builded NAS 
and VoIP solutions. So I consider that the work for Bering-uClibc has reached 
a point, where it allows others to join in and build other stuff on the 
base - given they want to use a libc build for embedded devices (uclibc))

To respond to another comment/question:

> KP,
> My plans above are contingent on you still trusting me to complete
> tasks. I haven't displayed reliability of late, and I don't blame you if
> you assign someone else the tasks.

I'm neither in the position to assign tasks to anyone, nor can I blame those 
who do the work (you). It's a matter of fact that nobody else stood up and 
worked on the webpages. 

Before reviving the developer pages we may ask the long list of "developers" 
if they still want to contribute and still want a developer status  - instead 
of continuing provding outdated pages and project ideas.

Also a "historical area" should be part of the pages  - as expressed by others 
as well.

But as first aid - can you make the news aggregation stuff available to all 
developers with admin access for our pages? That way we can fix easily 
the "outdated" news on the main page.... Maybe I should make the 
announcements there and not the Bering-uClibc page - if I'm able to do... 
Maybe I am, then I've just forgotten it - memory sometimes fail  - without 
accident, just by getting older :)

kp 

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