Hi all, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > I always preferred the second one and that's, what I started with to > enhance/change it: > > "LEAF is a Linux Embedded Appliance Framework. > Branches provides various appliance-oriented tasks: LAN/WAN router, Internet > border router/firewalls, wireless access point (WAP), network storage > (NAS/SAN), Private Branch eXchange (PBX) and even telemetry boxes." > > (characters unkown) whatever the latest proposal might be, I'll just quote that one, since it doesn't matter for the point I want to make. Ultimately, I don't care what the project description is (well, within reason) - in the end, no matter how finely crafted our project description is (possibly the result of months of discussion), it will probably not make a huge difference (IMHO). Having a good product, with a strong community (developers, people writing docs, people helping others on the lists) would make a difference (again IMHO).
But anyway, my concern with the proposed description is this: what's so special about a NAS or a PBX that it needs to be mentioned in the project description? VOIP was a hot topic a short while ago, maybe that's why it's "needed" from a marketing point of view, but to me it's just one of the many things that a LEAF box can be used for (and IMHO, one it's not terribly suited for, since a full blown PBX needs storage, for voice mail and the like, which is an add-on, but not a core feature for LEAF. Same goes for SAN/NAS, I guess - it's possible, but a "real" SAN/NAS box should have all kinds of RAID drivers available, up to date networking protocols, plenty of RAM (why waste precious RAM that could be used for caching on a ramdisk?)). Anyway, just because it can be done, I don't think it should be part of the project description. We have a build environment available, so anything that's theoretically possible can be done, if somebody is willing to invest the energy to do it. I've used my leaf box for "war-driving" (well, the friendly kind, not trying to break into other networks, just to find out who's interfering with my WLAN). It works nicely for that; it also works nicely with a WISPY Spectrum Analyzer. Should we add that to our project description as well? (A soekris or WRAP box will work nicely running on battery, and it will obviously run on many laptops - so maybe we should even add "mobile appliance" to the description as well?). Or maybe even something to do with "Green IT" (seems to be the hot topic at the CeBit right now), since it will run just fine on computers that don't require a 300+W power supply? In short - I feel that the core strengths of LEAF (Bering uClibc and its yet unnamed successor in particular) are network related stuff (firewall, router, AP). It can do many other things as well, but I think those things are already covered with the "Although it can be used in other ways; it's primarily used as..." part of our current description. If a change is required, maybe it could be as simple as changing that part to "Although it can be used in many other ways; it's primarily used as..." Just my 2 cents - as I said, I don't really care one way or the other, I just wanted to address what seems to be "feature creep" in the project description to me, when I read the current proposals. And I guess I had to voice my opinion, given the fact that kp used the "speak up, or I'll assume you agree" approach. Martin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ leaf-devel mailing list leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
