Hi David, everybody!
At 17:18 09/07/01, DavidD wrote:
Angel Martin Alganza wrote:
> In both cases 1 & 2, I guess the systems could boot from a single floppy
> and download other needed packages a la Oxygen from a FTP or Web
> server. Although DavidD's instructions say you MUST use two floppies to
> boot Oxygen,
...did I say that? You don't NEED two floppies; I routinely use one
Mmmhhh... this is what I have always concluded while reading on Oxygen
instructions on the web site. On the "Data Disk" part on
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/content.php?menu=90000&page_id=6 one can read:
"As Oxygen is configured, you will need one of these:"
Which always makes me think a second floppy IS required. Perhaps I
misunderstand the right sense of such sentence, since my English isn't
very good. I think there is something else somewhere else which gave me
the same feeling... I'll try to look for it and let you know.
I also have to admit I haven't played around with Oxygen, perhaps
mostly due to the fact that I always though 2 floppies was a must :(
floppy. The second floppy was designed as a "personalization" disk;
that is, there is nothing much on the first floppy which turns the
system into a network diagnostics tool, an FTP server, or a web server.
It might be that itīs just me, but I think it would be nice to
have a sentence like that somewhere on your Oxygen pages, David. Forget it
if you think I'm wrong or you already state it somewhere I have missed :)
> As some of you might know, I was very exited about DavidD's
> Butterfly, which I though I would wait for to be used for this two
> projects.
You must mean DavidC; I don't work on Butterfly.
Of course.
> (At the moment, Xterminals are being made by using X servers for
> Windows; and services are run by a single box running Debian; so I am
not
> in a hurry and want to analyze all my options before I decide for
one). I
> am not waiting for Butterfly anymore and so, I am looking for
> alternatives. LEAF is my first beat and I think muLinux is not bad
either.
I found muLinux's use of 1.72M floppies interesting; therefore I've not
had muLinux work once.
I use routinely on my 12MB, 486 laptop. It works great.
I've found an interesting alternative to the standard X terminal: use a
VNC client on the display and use a VNC server on the other side. I've
already gotten a VNC client for LRP based on SVGAlib; I've yet to test
it with a mouse operating... pwm doesn't require a mouse :-)
Sure... we already talked about that. I use a SVNCV floppy since
three years, but I want to have something standard. I mean... I want my
students to put a floppy on their systems, boot them, and get a graphical
(X) Login box to my server.
1. Using multiple servers to provide specialized services. A single
Oxygen floppy with appropriate URL loads could handle this; modify
syslinux.cfg to provide several different URLs based on what you are
setting up. Loading packages via an FTP server, for example, you can
specify which packages to load by creating the appropriate configuration
file on the server.
Mmmmmhhhhhh... it sounds really cool and not difficult to achieve,
I'll have a look :)
2. XTerminal. I've looked at other 486-based X terminals; most suggest
using an old version of Debian or other, with only enough to run X
loaded. This implies a 200M disk or so. Using LEAF for X would require
a tiny X server (like tinyX) but I haven't looked at it. microwindows
(and some others) also provide a windowing interface, but they are not
compatable with X.
Using a Hard Disk is not possible, since I really need them
untouched on those systems. Using alternatives to X would be not possible,
since I need a standard X Login. (By the way, I'll try to get those links
to W and MGR fixed or, if those projects are no longer supported, I'll put
the releases I have somewhere to be downloaded.
My original idea was to have one or several LEAF packages
containing X (xserver, xdm, etc), which could be downloaded ala
Oxygen. Size would not be a concern, since they would be on the FTP server
and the clients have enough RAM.
Thanks a lot for your comments, David.
Cheers,
Angel
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