I first saw this problem a year ago and tried to solve it then.  In
brief, my ISP actually got interested in the issue as we first suspected
their routers were a problem.  A techie there built and put two
Eiger/FreeS/WAN boxes onto the system.  Their transfer speeds were good
(as my early tests without the samba window dressing had been).  So we
tried connecting my personal gateway to one of theirs next.  Again the
speeds were good to him, but bad to my office an equal number of hops
away.  I finally twigged to the realization that the good transfers were
achieved by mapping a drive by IP and share.

So I tried mapping to the office that way.  Still lousy transfers.  But
the WINS and browsing was still active and I never had the interest or
opportunity to shut it all down to test further.

However, Roger's posting to the FreeS/WAN list got me interested again.
It's clear to me that the netbios crap that gets strewn all over the
place works much differently when WINS and/or browse syncing is active.
It becomes a double edged sword however... To make the connection fast
enough to be useful, you won't be able to browse properly... And if you
can browse, forget about moving files!!

Bottom line, I don't think you windows admin capabilities are in
question... The cause lives in Redmond.

I will keep the list informed if I learn anything of use.

Brock

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Steinkuehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: April 19, 2002 3:09 PM
> To: Brock Nanson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: RE:[Leaf-user] NT networking over LEAF IPSEC VPN
> 
> 
> > I may have been one of those who replied on the FreeS/WAN 
> list.  Your 
> > posting has actually prompted me to revisit the whole issue.  In 
> > brief, I think I said that the transfer speeds were fine so long as 
> > WINS and browsing was left out of the equation.  At least 
> that seems 
> > to be the case.  However, as you know, this precludes using network 
> > neighbourhood.
> >
> > Do you need free run of network neighbourhood, or could you get by 
> > with several mapped drives?  These could be done 
> automagically with a 
> > logon script.
> 
> I see *GIGANTIC* differences in access speed when browsing to 
> network resources vs using mapped drives.  Mapping a drive 
> makes the performance
> *MUCH* better.  I have yet to do any qualitative tests, but 
> "user experience" indicates a 10x to 100x type of improvement.
> 
> This could easily be the result of a sub-optimal network 
> configuration on my part (I'm not a particularly good Windows 
> admin, and don't particularly want to be...I know just enough 
> to keep my system running).
> 
> Please keep the list informed of your progress with this... 


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