Gatesy, > From: Gatesy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:12:31 +1000
This thread should go over the mailing list, *please* don't just email me, at least 'CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'. If you go over the list and I should stop answering your emails, others might be prepared to take over the thread. If you go over the list and I should give you a useful answer, other might benefit. > my linux knowledge of linux is nill and my experience isnt much > more. im a windows boy what can i say although i do miss dos. The fact that you miss DOS is probably a good sign, but *some* understanding of Linux is probably a good idea before starting on a LEAF box. To squeeze everything needed onto one floppy (albeit a 1680K floppy) has meant that the number of commands available has been cut back to the *bear* essentials. A LEAF box has an even steeper 'learning curve' that (for instance) a RedHat box and some 'Windows boys (and girls)' find *that* pretty hard. How did you find Charles Steinkuehler's site? He has made things pretty straight forward for people who have just come over from the 'evil empire'. There probably is a *slight* lack of documentation/guides aimed at different knowledge levels, but that does make it all the more important to use what there *is*. One of the things that makes the change over hard for some people is 'between the ears'. You have to be prepared to go back to the beginning. You probably know your way round Dos/Windows pretty well by now and can get it to do most things that you want it to do. Don't forget how much learning and time it took to get here. It will probably take you quite some time to get to the same level with Linux/LEAF. Do you remember how much of struggle it was when you were first presented with that 'C:>' prompt? Do you remember how many magazine articles you read, how many books you paged through, how many knowledgeable friends you consulted? Well, you are back there again except that the prompt is now probably '$'. You will probably have to learn something like as much as you learnt when starting with DOS. Lots of concepts you learnt with DOS will be applicable to the LEAF/Linux world, but quite a few new ones will also have to be learnt and that will take *time*. You must get ready for a lot of reading. *Slow* reading. Don't skip paragraphs. Stop, takes rests. Notice the differences and similarities. Compare it to learning a foreign language, frustrating in the beginning, but satisfying in the end. The people on this list will help you with *specific* problems, but in general you will find that people on the Internet are not very sympathetic to people who simply say 'Help, it doesn't do what I want. What must I do?'. Do you know what 'RTFM' means? Well 'RTFM' first and then ask *specific* questions... > > 23/06/2002 11:47:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Gatesy, > > > >> From: Gatesy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:26:36 +1000 > >> > >> no sorry not family of billy. > > > >;-) > > > > > >> how do i set this thing up?? > > > >I am afraid I can't hold your hand here very much... > > > >This is not the world of 'download the executable, start the > >installer, click on OK three or four times and reboot the machine'. > >This is *not* Windows. > > > >How is your Linux knowledge/experience? > > > >May I suggest that you visit Charles Steinkuehler's site at > >http://lrp.steinkuehler.net/ for 'Easy to use disk images and lots of > >extras' and also perhaps wander around the LEAF website for a while. > > > > > >> and how do i get a 1680k floppy? > > > >By formatting it with 21 sectors per track instead of 18. This is > >trivial under Linux and is possible with shareware programs under > >Windows. > > > > > >> 23/06/2002 10:32:11 PM, Mark Plowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> >Gatesy (family of Bill?), > >> > > >> >> From: Gatesy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:22:04 +1000 > >> >> > >> >> i dont know if this makles sense but anyway.... > >> > > >> >Makes sense to me at least... > >> > > >> > > >> >> will the router be a good firewall so i can take zonealarm pro off > >> >> my main computer to hopefully speed it up abit??? > >> > > >> >If your (LEAF?) router has been configured as a firewall it will, > >> >indeed, be quite a good firewall (truism!). In that sense, you don't > >> >need zone-alarm to protect you any more. > >> > > >> >However, although I don't have any experience with zone-alarm, I do > >> >believe that it also monitors *outgoing* connection attempts and > >> >maintains a map of program - destination - permission triplets. In > >> >this way zone-alarm will also give you a degree of protection against > >> >malicious 'Mal-ware' programs that 'phone home' with information about > >> >you. This is something that it is impossible to do from a firewall > >> >(it only knows of hosts - and can't see which program is initiating > >> >the connect attempt). > >> > > >> >Does zone-alarm really slow you though put that much? I would expect > >> >all that much, to be honest (based on theoretical arguments). Do some > >> >test downloads from a site 'near' you and see how big the difference > >> >is between 'with' and 'without'. > >> > > >> >If the 'cost of zone-alarm is not all that big, I would suggest > >> >keeping it in place - a 'belt *and* braces' approach is alway good in > >> >security measures. > >> > > >> > > >> >> thanks > >> > > >> > > >> >Greetings > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Mark Plowman, > > > >-- > >Mark Plowman -- Mark Plowman ------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
