On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Richard Amerman wrote:

> All logging should idealy be done off site using a syslog deamon.  

Agreed.

> The most important thing is not to have a breach and second to fix
> weaknesses.  In this situation flushing the memory IS the best
> solution to insure this, though it is not the only one, and would
> rarely be that practicle or worth the hastle.

Absolutely disagree.  Rebooting is a waste of time.  If there is a way in,
rebooting does nothing to prevent repetition.  If there is not, rebooting
serves no purpose.  If you are faced with a break-in in-progress, you need
to disable external network access until the problem is rectified... not
reboot.

>  Nothing is lost other
> than evidence, but it is more important to stop the crime rather than
> catch someone after the damage is done and with the logs safe you
> should have the most important information avialable.

Mostly true.  I don't know that what was logged will provide enough clues
as to the method of entry to close the hole, so I want the memory intact
if possible just in case.

>  
> Richard Amerman
> 
>       -----Original Message----- 
>       From: Jeff Newmiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>       Sent: Sat 6/29/2002 7:28 PM 
>       To: Richard Amerman 
>       Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>       Subject: RE: Software write-protect (Was: Re: [leaf-user] Floppies)
> 
>       On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Richard Amerman wrote:
>       
>       > It seems to me that reguardless of what you do to write-protect the
>       > medium, you have to flush (restart) the system regularly to be the
>       > most secure.  This would idealy have to be done by some method that is
>       > both independant of the LEAF firewall itself and the systems it is
>       > protecting as these methods could be compromised.  If you had a simple
>       > hardware timer that recycled the power on the machine every night or
>       > on some schedule that makes sense this would work.
>       
>       I disagree.  Flushing ram flushes evidence of disturbances, and does
>       nothing to find or eliminate latent weaknesses.

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