>From what you are listing, the issue here is not LEAF but Linux. If
Linux can do the job, LEAF can. Yes Linux can. As compared to other
solutions, you have much more flexibility in Linux.

To cite a few:
1. You can change interface characteristics and ddefine queue lengths
for every interface.
2. You can build redundancy using vrrp.
3. You can build complex traffic management systems. Tcng, htbinit and
cbqinit are useful frontends for this.

LEAF is a platform on this all this can run. You do not need a full
blooded Linux machine with HDD for this.

I think Bering/ WISP are good candidates for the following reasons:

1. Both are 2.4.18 based thus supporting tc.
2. Bering Kernel is patched for Devik's htb qdisc.
3. WISP has a built in bandwidth management script in shapecfg. WISP is
based on CRAMfs which loads binaries into RO FS thus making it more
secure than Bering.

I'm looking at using LEAF for similar purposes and have gotten used to
putting what I need to gether on Bering. I'm evaluating tcng as the tc
script generator. Lack of a package has led me to use cbqinit/ htbinit.
Shorewall packaged with Bering looks attractive. Since I do not need
wireless support, I've stuck to Bering.

HTH
Mohan

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Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 1:15 PM
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Subject: [leaf-user] Could/should I use LEAF for this application?



Hello LEAF users,

We are going to be getting a full 100mbit line dropped to us in a
colocation
facility. We plan to resell part of this bandwidth to about about 20
dedicated and colocated clients. I am trying to come up with a cheap,
effective & easy solution to serve these clients AND manage/throttle/cap

their bandwidth consumption.

I have been administrating my own (FreeBSD) boxes for about 7 years now,
so
I know my way around unix a bit. However, I have never been faced with
networking at this level, and don't really know about RIP and the
various
bandwidth management options available.

So far here is what I came up with:

Solution #1 CISCO Layer3 Switch ~$2500:

CISCO Catalyst WS-C2948G-L3 Layer 3 Switch.
It Does RIP, does ACL rate-limiting for (crude?) bw management. Seems
like a single-appliance solution -- price $2000-$3000 Ugh.

Solution #2 ETINC software + Switch ~$1500:

Banwidth Management software from www.etinc.com
(applied on one of my boxes). I _think_ I could run
that box as a router still... then all I would need
would be a good 24-48 port switch (could someone recommend?). Price?...
$700 for the software, ~$300 for the box, another $500 for the switch?
(maybe thats too much).. Total ~$1500.00.

Solution #3 -- LEAF + Switch = ~$800 (or less!):

Could leaf handle this on a good box? All I would need then would be a
good switch right?


Keep in mind, it is a FULL 100mbit line - and we will be paying for the
bandwidth. If we aren't getting "full wire speed" or whatever.. its
probably because of some hardware bottleneck or something somewhere. So
I sort of wanted to use good hardware - or at least a solution that
would be compareable to the CISCO router.

Thanks for reading,

Kaz





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