Thanks for the help Chris, but I really wanted Bering/Shorewall as the
router/firewall for the flexibility for DMZ configurations, dynamic DNS
updates, etc.

Steps to the final solution for the archives:
- The Cayman 3320H cannot be put in bridge mode if it uses PPPoA.  With
the early firmware it will let you, but it doesn't work as a bridge. The
later firmware will not let you.
- Netopia said to try switching it to PPPoE and see if the Cayman can
still connect.  It did, I guess Bell South uses both PPPoA and PPPoE?
- Once in PPPoE you can set it to bridge mode with the docs from the
Netopia web site
- From there setting up Bering was pretty smooth per the User Guide.
The only thing that seemed odd was I thought the PPPoE would only use
the pap id/pw, but I had to add the id/pw to the ppp chat setting also.

Thanks again for the help,
Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Blackmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:28 PM
> To: 'Todd Pearsall'
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
> 
> 
> Sounds like you have a static IP at this location then.  I 
> believe you can
> let the Cayman take care of the DSL connection and just 
> forward UDP port 500
> and protocol 50 from the Cayman to the Bering box and achieve 
> the desired
> result.  Since you will be NATing the ports, don't forget to 
> use "ipsecnat"
> for the TYPE column in the Shorewall Tunnels file.
> 
> I have a Bering-FreeS/WAN Net-to-Net VPN using BellSouth DSL 
> (dynamic IP and
> a Cayman) on one end and a T1 with a static IP on the other 
> end and it works
> great.
> 
> Chris
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Todd Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:17 PM
> > To: 'Chris Blackmon'
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta 
> and PPPoA?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > 
> > I want to set up this office be able to join the vpn with 2 
> other Leaf
> > routers and support road warrior VPN users.  If been reading 
> > about their
> > VPN add-on for the Cayman (SafeHarbour) and it sounds like 
> I could use
> > that to connect to the other offices for $40 per tunnel, 
> but but 5-15
> > road warriors will get pricy, vs free like the other offices.  
> > 
> > I was trying to set the Cayman as bridge and do all the routing with
> > Bering which I *assumed* meant Bering would have to bring 
> up the PPPoA
> > connection as well.  I'd love to be wrong ;).
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Todd
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Blackmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:35 AM
> > > To: 'Todd Pearsall'
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta 
> > and PPPoA?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Todd,
> > > 
> > > Why do you want the Bering box to make the PPP connection 
> > to your ISP
> > > instead of the router?  I have the same router with BellSouth 
> > > DSL in Raleigh
> > > and would like to help, but I guess I am not clear on what 
> > > you are trying to
> > > accomplish.
> > > 
> > > Chris Blackmon
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Todd Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:05 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta 
> > > and PPPoA?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Making a little progress.  I was able to confirm in the 
> > > Cayman router
> > > > setup that it is in fact PPPoA and not PPPoE so at least 
> > I can focus
> > > > getting the PPPoA up.  I'm using the Bering User's Guide PPPoA
> > > > Configuration section which uses an ATM/PCI card vs. I have 
> > > the Cayman
> > > > attached to eth0.  
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure how I should be defining interfaces the example is:
> > > > 
> > > > auto lo ppp0 eth0
> > > > 
> > > > iface lo inet loopback
> > > > 
> > > > iface ppp0 inet ppp
> > > >         provider dsl-provider
> > > > 
> > > > iface eth0 inet static
> > > >         address 192.168.1.254
> > > >         masklen 24
> > > >         broadcast 192.168.1.255
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > What I want to do is:
> > > > auto lo
> > > > iface lo inet loopback
> > > > 
> > > > auto ppp0
> > > > iface ppp0 inet ppp
> > > >         provider dsl-provider eth0 <-----
> > > > 
> > > > auto eth1
> > > > iface eth1 inet static
> > > >         address 192.168.1.254
> > > >         masklen 24
> > > >         broadcast 192.168.1.255
> > > > 
> > > > But the older ppp that you need for pppatm doesn't seem to 
> > > support the
> > > > eth0 parameter.  Should the internal be eth0 or eth1?  
> > Any ideas or
> > > > direction would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Todd
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> > > > > Todd Pearsall
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:53 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta 
> > and PPPoA?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm trying to setup our location in Atlanta with Bering 
> > > > (have 3 others
> > > > > running else where in the country).
> > > > > 
> > > > > The router is a Cayman 3220H which I set to bridge mode using
> > > > > instructions on the Cayman (now Netoptia website) and then 
> > > > > began setting
> > > > > up Bering.  BellSouth tech support is telling me the 
> > > > service is PPPoE,
> > > > > but the router is showing "different" settings they what 
> > > > they expect.
> > > > > Based on the Cayman settings it appears to me to be 
> > PPPoA (the ATM
> > > > > Configuration screens has one interface defined as ppp-llc).
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was working with the PPPoE and now PPPoA Bering setups 
> > > without any
> > > > > success yet.  Does anyone have this service in the Atlanta 
> > > > > area that can
> > > > > confirm if it is PPPoA and give me any hints?  I'm 
> > > calling BellSouth
> > > > > again...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Todd
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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