On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Mike Noyes <mhno...@users.sourceforge.net>wrote:
> On 09/05/2013 07:47 PM, Victor McAllister wrote: > > The Guardian has an interesting article on how to make it a little > > harder for NSA to read your encrypted traffic. Evidently they are > > tapping fiber, have compromised many routers and have back doors on lots > > of commercial software. The terrorists are not as dangerous to democracy > > as the spies. The politician who controls internet decryption can > > control the world. Think about it. > > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-how-to-remain-secure-surveillance > > Victor, > The NANOG mailing list is finding some gems too. > > NSA Laughs at PCs, Prefers Hacking Routers and Switches > http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2013-September/060773.html > > The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back > http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2013-September/060812.html > > Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian > Network Sovereignty > http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2013-September/060877.html > > [Cryptography] Opening Discussion: Speculation on "BULLRUN" > http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2013-September/060894.html > > -- > Mike Noyes > http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes > https://plus.google.com/113364780158082152468 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user > Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/ > Trying not to be disingenuous, but how does all this data get where it's going? Suppose the NSA gets a carrier to "turn on the firehose" and intercept all traffic going through it's network. We're talking multiple terabyte streams of data *per day* at that point. One would think that a movement of traffic that large to a single place or set of known places, would be easily trackable over internet routers that report statistics publicly. Assuming that these carriers are under a gag order, there could certainly be a movement to dispute all of ones' network and/or cellular bills, citing said company's inability to provide accurate user data. Just a thought... Certainly, having to maintain a 50% router capacity overhead for governmental use would be galling to many networking companies. I totally believe that the NSA has and will continue to have significant eavesdropping and signals counter-intelligence capacity, including systems cracking and other nefarious measures. Intercepts have happened and will continue to happen. However, I think that the capabilities of this organization are being overblown in order to prop up it's own reputation and to spread FUD amongst it's enemies (a very good strategy for a spying agency, IMHO). Just looking at the logistical problems of routing and storing that much data - never mind doing any sort of real-time processing on it - makes me think that the grey hats might be exaggerating a bit for their target audience. That, and to sell more news stories... -- -=Tom Nail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041391&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
