Fascinating.

On Dec 30, 2008, at 1:57 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

Changing all the other documents and teaching people about proper
choice of timescales is a proven path to failure.

 `The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call
  the reality-based community," which he defined as people
  who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious
  study of discernible reality.'
    - an aide to GW Bush, quoted by Ron Suskind, NYTimes

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community)


...and at 5:11 AM:

We can argue until the cows come home, if that constitutes a "valid
need for UTC" seem from a scientific point of view, but that would
not change their legal need one iota.

The SI second is sacred because it is "scientific". But UTC is profane because it is of interest only to scientists.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IlHgbOWj4o)


...and at 5:36 AM:

Most of the population would consider UTC a fancy way to spell GMT
and therefore, it is widely understood that outside england the
latter should be read as the former.

Not only is the meaning of UTC to change, but GMT is to be redefined as a result.

Also, it's unacceptable to use "universal" in a purely metaphorical sense, but it's ok that "mean" will no longer have its familiar definition as a measure of central tendency.


...and at 6:26 AM:

Yes, it is geekcentric view, and that is because it is the geeks
who have the trouble with the leap seconds, everybody else just
ignores them.

Nobody other than geeks has a problem with leap seconds. Geeks are competent to deal with what residual problems there may be. Therefore leap seconds must die.


Rather than getting tangled into logical pretzels, why don't we simply seek a better solution than the ITU's slipshod proposal? Though some might want to, we can't just redefine the problem out of existence. Personally, I suggest we start with a careful characterization of how civil timekeeping fits into the society of people, not just the society of geeks.

Rob

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