On Dec 30, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

Rob Seaman writes:

Nobody other than geeks has a problem with leap seconds.  Geeks are
competent to deal with what residual problems there may be. Therefore
leap seconds must die.

We in the "realitybased community" know this to be not true.

Um. It's the rest of us (whatever our positions) who are reality based. You are in the other category. The quote continues:

"That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

The assertion has almost literally been that the Earth and Moon, Sun and stars bow down before the mighty ITU.

Some of us are skeptical.  (Google "Ozymandias".)

The ITU proposal is insufficient - as a concept and as a document. For those who may like the concept, the best way to sell it is to improve the document. If this were a NASA or NSF proposal, the referees would reject it as incomplete.

Others might have additional suggestions for improvement, but I would like to see 1) a convincing explanation of why the Torino consensus was rejected, 2) an improved mechanism for conveying DUT1 (since the proposal makes the need much more critical), rather than decommissioning the mechanism we have now, and 3) a clear analysis of how the inevitable intercalary corrections will be handled.

(Maybe some of this text already exist as internal work products of the WP7A, USNO, BIPM, IERS or other organization?)

In particular, those who like the entertainment value of the perpetually circulating carousel of timezones would be well advised to document how this might work in practice. This could be a tool to help convince the holdouts in the working party to change their votes in your direction.

It is to the ITU's benefit to demonstrate a little humility. Would a coherent analysis of how the proposal mitigates risks hurt so much to generate? After all, the announced motivation for making a change is that leap seconds are risky. Document how they are risky and how their absence is not. If you think a paragraph is sufficient to the task, then just add it under the heading "Risks mitigated by this proposal". No proposal avoids issues simply by failing to note them. On the other hand, if an issue is truly trivial, it should be trivial to discuss it.

I will still dislike the concept, but why do you care so much about that? I'm not a member of WP7A.

Rob


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