On Jan 9, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Rob Seaman wrote:

> Ian Batten wrote:
> 
>> I know you really, fervently believe that to be not only true currently but 
>> inevitably and essentially true, but it just isn't.
> 
> No, rather I assert it as a definition of terms.  A mathematical identity if 
> you like.

It is only one possible definition, not the only one.  That makes it a belief, 
not a mathematical identity.

Warner


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