Tony Finch wrote:

> It is already commonplace.

Well, no.  The geographic center of California is about exactly 8 hours (120 
degrees) west of Greenwich.  Los Angeles is a couple of degrees East and San 
Francisco a similar distance West of this meridian.  Even for California plate 
tectonics can be ignored, and PST will always remain naturally 8 hours from GMT.

Both PST and GMT are stationary with respect to Universal Time.  Historians or 
futurists, scientists or other long term planners can predict the relative 
activities in these two places on a given future calendar date, or 
proleptically backwards indefinitely even over periods that the length-of-day 
varies, precisely because it is days that are being counted.

If Coordinated Universal Time is redefined, the foundation of this trembles.  
For a given UTC we would no longer even be able to predict the day it 
corresponds to, hence Steve Allen's comment:

        The effect of this proposal is not about clocks, but rather to
        disconnect the count of calendar days from the sun.

It is - let's see, what's an appropriately technical term - "wacky" to 
encourage the timezone system to become unglued from the Earth.

Both the ITU and US statements last week focus on "continuous time" as their 
continuing goal.  This phrasing is troubling since as has been emphasized here 
UTC has always been precisely that: continuous.  Putting that aside for the 
moment the question is how to reach a consensus that won't dump us right back 
in the current mess when the issue next comes up in 2015.

Whatever the design parameters of new APIs, e.g., floating-point or not, they 
will only succeed if the underlying conceptual model resembles the real-world.  
Steve Allen's concept of how such interfaces should interact with the system of 
timezones:

        
http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/futureofutc/preprints/45_AAS_11-681_Allen.pdf

is 1) written down and has references, and is 2) conformant with the 
real-world.  On the other hand, the timezone assumptions underlying the "Draft 
Revision to ITU-R Recommendation TF.460-6" are neither.  We need to revise the 
revision.

Rob

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