On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 11:21 PM, Martin Blais <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Ben Finney <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Martin Blais <[email protected]> writes: >> >> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Dominik Aumayr <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > And I also get why people might want something else […]: >> > > >> > > - Ideological reasons (Google is evil for [some|many] people in these >> > > communities) >> > >> > That's a very difficult argument to make. >> >> I don't agree with “evil”. A corporation is amoral, it doesn't have a >> coherent personality and should never be regarded as a person. >> >> What I do say is that it's unreasonable to pressure members of a >> community to entrust their social and collaborative data – highly >> valuable to the community – to a corporation that has no accountability >> to that community. >> > Finally: I'm not pressuring you to do anything. I'm just expressing to Dominik how I've found this tool to be a powerful enabler for my own free software project, which IMO is interesting by virtue of being unusual usage in the free software arena. And, and just to be clear these views represent only my _personal_ views and pertain only to my open source project, and do not represent the views of any employers I've had, past or present. I think it's important to clarify with this disclaimer, in case you might have interpreted this otherwise. > > is because we don't want any of our social, collaborative processes to >> be mediated by a particular corporation. >> > > In the meantime you have a inexistant hypothetical "libre" wiki server > which once you get consensus over who will take care of it will require > ongoing maintenance by someone who will stop paying attention at some point > and then it will rot out of date within three months. I've been there > before, maintained a few of those myself. In the meantime I have an real, > live ongoing conversation with my users in the documents which are > constantly lighting up with feedback, buttressed by 100's of world-class > engineers on their own cloud. For free. > > But maybe you feel more free. And in case, I don't think I'm going to > change your mind tonight. > > And I have some code to write now. > Good luck with the politics, > I'd like to apologize for this comment, perhaps it got a bit carried away. I understand that you and Stefano have stronger requirements than I do over the software you use, that's your right. I can appreciate this - I do select the GPL for a reason - but at the end of the day, we disagree on those values when it comes to usage; I'm a pragmatist and I'm very impatient, I'll use what gets me moving over insisting on everything being free. It's okay to disagree. Cheers, -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
