Correction:

Gmail messed up my URL:
http://www.ledgersmb.org/community/

On 1/22/07, Chris Travers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/22/07, Jeff Gerritsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I believe a healthy discussion on the future of LSMB is needed, although I'm
> > concerned about two issues, one being discussed and one not being discussed!
> >
> > The concerns I have are about the one issue being discussed may degenerate
> > into unproductive language and platform wars - although (I believe) a remote
> > possibility).
>
> Given past conflicts, what will happen is that any language/platform
> wars will cause an issue to be tabled and will eventually be revisited
> and resolved.  So far, the core team has been very good at working to
> resolve these differences, though I am sure that both Josh and I are
> surprised that the differences exist :-)
>
> >  The second issue not being discussed (at least I haven't seen
> > much written about it) is what are our intended users needs?  Shouldn't 
> > these
> > needs be the driving force behind the future direction of LSMB?  Therefore,
> > based upon user needs, can we not make intelligent decisions on the future 
> > of
> > LSMB?
>
> You are right about this.  I would just point out three things:
>
> 1)  Most of the actual mechanics of how the application needs to work
> are well defined by standards boards.  I think that it is important
> that LSMB always operates correctly from an accounting perspective.
> Given the state of the inherited codebase, it will be a while before
> this can be met.
>
> 2)  We have a statement of direction that the entire core team signed
> on to.  You can find it at http://www.ledgersmb.org/community/
> part-way down the page.
>
> 3)  Beyond the accounting bit, there are a lot of specific needs
> individual businesses are going to have.  These cannot be implemented
> in a way that the application out of the box will work in every
> possible vertical market, so instead, the infrastructure approach
> allows the application to work in such an environment.  Therefore I
> think it is important to create an application where the community can
> take it to any set of users regardless of their needs beyond
> GAAP-compliant accounting.
> >
> > While each language has it's strengths and weaknesses, both Perl and Python
> > are mature, fully functional, and have a whole host of toolkits available to
> > them.  Personally Python has a very slight advantage to me due to the syntax
> > style, but that is mostly immaterial compared to user needs.
>
> I have worked with both Perl and Python, have encountered
> cross-platform issues in both, encountered things I really like about
> both languages, and encountered things I really *don't* like about
> each language.  To me, as you say, the question is what the cost is of
> switching languages, given where we are now and what people are using
> the software.
>
> While I don't think that the choice to switch languages is to be
> lightly done, I can easily imagine a future where there are
> implementations in different languages and that these compete (just as
> we see with, say, Jabber).
> >
> > Have we taken a "holistic" look at LSMB and user needs?  For example, would
> > ecommerce integration be a desired need?
>
> At least one core member is building e-commerce connectors for a customer.
>
> >  Or integration with a popular CMS?
>
> Haven't heard a request for this yet.
>
> > Or is enhanced light manufacturing a need being expressed?
>
> Yes, this is a need.
>
> > I suggest we
> > first prioritize user needs and let them be the "basic" drivers in a
> > discussion on the future of LSMB.
>
> Currently the way that this is being done is that customers are
> commissioning features and we work to help ensure that these features
> are as forward-compatible as is reasonably possible.  At the same
> time, we are redesigning every aspect of the software, and are
> engaging in detailed discussions with the community about needs in
> specific modules.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Chris Travers
>

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