I agree Matt, no one ever listens to me anyway so i rarely post, i've only been here a few years and only supported since 1971 so what do i know? We all moaned last year but got promoted, we hoped for mid table this year and have over achieved in that sense. I haven't been able to travel this year (Oman is a bugger of a flight) but what I have seen on TV has shown me we have a group of mostly average players who will do quite well in this league with a few stand outs. If we stay down we will lose Kasper and Snoddy, I'd like to keep Watt and Max and Kilkenny. I wish Kisnorbo was back too it would help imo. I love the general banter here as depressing as it is most days but i am pleased that at least we won't go down this year. We have done well, we could have done better and there will still be ups and downs. I am in touch with mates all over the world regularly and thanks to listers here i get to at least hear the radio commentary and sometimes dodgy TV - long may this miserable bunch of moaning buggers carry on their opinions on a daily basis - it does amuse me. For the record and I hate to agree Becchio is crap but he scores goals - eventually. Somma should start more often. Kasper has been our saviour more times this season than any other keeper for us in a long time. I love being a Leeds fan, gives me an excuse for the tourettes I develop when I listen to the games.. MOT.
Andy Pyzer > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:41:14 +0000 > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] What part? > > In some ways we had this in league 1. When we started to slip during the > cup run it was fairly apparently that most of these players weren’t good > enough for the championship so what motivation did they have to get over the > finish line, a season of struggle, a replacement coming in??? > > > > But, quite a few have proven that wrong > > > > But never under estimate the vanity of football people > > > > Bates wants his day at Stamford Bridge, Grayson won’t want to be a nearly > man, we are still the biggest club outside the premier league and while > this season is a gimme next season isn’t! > > > > Many of the players think they are prem standard, the media seem to agree, > Becchio to Celtic, Kasper to Liverpool, Bradley Johnson to half a dozen no > mark lower prom clubs, it won’t be long before the Somma to Stoke or > someone rumours start. > > > > I was p1ssed off last night but we are 6th, 5 points off 2nd, the clubs > around us are dropping points at random. > > > > I’m not convinced that we have to get out of this league this year, I can > see West Ham having a relegation hangover and Wigan and Wolves the other 2 > most likely hold no fear even with £50m. Look how Hull and Burnley have > struggled to adjust. > > > > Relax and enjoy this season and see where it leads, top 8 is good anything > better is fantastic! > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Dr Michael Benjamin > Sent: 23 February 2011 17:11 > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] What part? > > > > Lets stir the shit a bit:- > Just how much motivation is there to go up? > Bates: Would get the opportunity to sell of the club. But................ > To do so he has to open up the whole can of worms about ownership and face a > possible criminal investigation. > To go up and not sell means either investing in new players or facing a lot > of questions about why he has not done so. > In short why should he? He is sat on a nice flow of cash. No real problems. > In short maybe Bates is better off as we are. > Grayson: Would get the opportunity to prove himself. But on the other hand > if a new buyer came in just what guarantees does he have of staying? None. > If buyer doesn't arrive he, SG, will be open conflict with Bates about > buying new players. Also SG will be the steward of a probable relegated > team. We all know that means the sack. So there are scenarios where SG maybe > not to keen to get promoted. Not with KB. > Before anyone starts lambasting me I'll make three points: > 1. The Watford play off final. > 2. The nature of our uncle Ken and his past antics. > 3. I said that this is one scenario -- there are many others. > But only in Leeds could you describe this scenario at all -- unlikely as it > may be [ or so I hope!] > > Michael > > > > > Dr Michael Benjamin, > Community Psychiatrist > ------------------------------- > myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT > http://www.myRay.com > ------------------------------ > Mental Health: > http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com > -------------------------------- > Auditing || Quality Control > http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ > -------------------------------- > Blog: > http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com > > > > On 23 February 2011 18:36, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 23/02/2011 14:04, Matt Anderson wrote: > > > >> Bates arguments aside should we be spending £10m on players to go > >> up? > >> > > > > > > I raised this issue after the Norwich match. Like Norwich we are > described > > as "building" a team. > > > > I'd like to think that we were and that the game plan was to have that > team > > constructed, if not over one season definitely over two seasons, in order > to > > be promoted and then retain Premiership status with the correct buying > > policy on achieving that status. > > > > Howard Wilkinson was in a different footballing world when he took Leeds > > out of the second division in 1990 but his buying strategy was astute. He > > had the correct players to take us out of division 2 and then supplanted > > some of them with the necessary players for the first division. > > > > Grayson appears not to have the luxury of Wilkinson's signings of 1989/90 > > and I doubt that he has the same single mindedness to instil the > discipline > > in his team that Wilko hammered home. Compare the promotion chasing club > of > > 1989/90 with the current set-up. I'm afraid it doesn't look good. > > > > Having said that, if we repeated our 1990 form in the run in to the end of > > this season we would end up with about 75 points and with only eight > points > > separating the 7 teams below runaway leaders QPR we could just be in with > a > > shout for automatic promotion but more likely the play-offs beckon. > > > > How many matches of the remaining 13 can we honestly expect to take > maximum > > points from? And does Grayson have the strength of character to lead the > > team on to taking those points? > > > > With QPR Swansea, Forest and Watford all still to come, forgive me if I am > > sceptical. Win those four games and I'd say we are capable of the second > > promotion spot. The problem is we are also quite capable of dropping > points > > big style against the likes of Burnley, Millwall and Ipswich. > > > > There are too many imponderables about the current team and because of > that > > it would take a very brave person to feel confident about anything other > > than the play-offs. > > > > And yes it isn't wrong to say that some of the blame must lie at the door > > of Kenneth William Bates who appears not to share the ambitions of his > > club's supporters for Premiership football - typified by the knowledge > that > > the club has had a purple patch in terms of revenues in recent years but > not > > in terms of squad improvement. > > > > There are a few players in the team who might be capable of holding their > > own at the higher level - Schmiechel for example) but would another season > > in the Championship only see those players leaving for pastures greener? > > > > It's a very frustrating time to be a Leeds United fan but then isn't it > > always? > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3462 - Release Date: 02/23/11 > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
