Rich What would you or anyone else do? I know what I'd do. Michael.
Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist ------------------------------- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com ------------------------------ Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com -------------------------------- Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ -------------------------------- Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 4 November 2011 17:44, Richard Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > Just remind me how Swindon did last season with the great man at the helm > ? > > Funny that he's left 2 clubs for more money ? or do you think it's because > they realise he's shit. > > From: David Bromley <[email protected]> > To: Richard Walker <[email protected]>; list leedslist < > [email protected]> > Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011, 13:32 > Subject: Re: [LU] Fw: Blackpool report > > > I meant the Jonathan Douglas that played most matches in the season we > reached the Championship playoffs,kept his place under Blackwell, Wise and > Grayson, and left (like Johnson and Kilkenny) because he could earn more > elsewhere. > In his first season at Swindon he was voted supporters' player of the > season and players' player of the season. But what would they know? > He then turned down a new contract at Swindon for more money at Brentford > who last time I looked were in league 1 not league 2 as you imply-you need > to keep up mate. > If we'd kept Douglas and played him at right back we would have saved > money and had a better defence in recent seasons. > > I dont know why you mention Collins but his weaknesses were obvious when > he was on loan and he should never have been made permanent. The same > mistake is being made now with Pugh. > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: Richard Walker > >To: David Bromley ; list leedslist > >Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:50 PM > >Subject: Re: [LU] Fw: Blackpool report > > > > > >It's a bit of a shame that even at 2-0 down and 10 men that you have to > start thinking about protecting your goal difference. What about Boro when > we went down to 10 men and were still the better team. We just crumbled and > it's my opinion that Grayson has lost it when it comes to the defence and > also in his belief that Danny Pugh is doing a job for him. > > > >Johnny Douglas - you're having a laugh mate. He couldn't read a > game or pass a ball. He ran around like a headless chicken not actually > contributing at all but giving the impression he was. He came with > premiership status , we soon realised he wasn't good enough for the > championship (but was an ever present) and then subsequently not good > enough for League One and now it appears that League 2 is challenging him. > He'll eventually end up where he belongs - non-league. > > > >and what about Neil Collins - he was solid and doing a job for us wasn't > he ? What a joke. > > > >From: David Bromley <[email protected]> > >To: list leedslist <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011, 12:18 > >Subject: [LU] Fw: Blackpool report > > > > > > > > > >> There were some favourable comments from an old pro posted yesterday > regarding Jonathan Douglas. Whatever his other failings I agreed with what > was written and always thought he read the game well and saw things early. > By contrast Kisnorbo often seems to see things late and this happened > several times yesterday. > >> > >> A large number of Pugh's passes yesterday were hospital passes. > >> > >> I am surprised no-one has commented on the manager's tactics yesterday > when Lees was sent off, we were 2 goals down to a team that had been > outplaying us from the off. > >> We weren't going to win so I wonder why Grayson didn't bring on O'Brian > straight away to replace Lees and take off one of the forwards (preferably > Keogh who didn't get a kick or header all night) and try to protect our > goal difference. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phill Shields" < > [email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:50 PM > >> Subject: Re: [LU] Blackpool report > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> David, > >>> > >>> I usually agree with your reports but I take issue with your comment > about Kisnorbo looking like getting back to his best. Rachubka did indeed > have a mare but it really would be glossing over the cracks to attribute > this defeat soley down to him. For the 1st goal Connelly had lots of time > and lost possession. Next thing a free unchallenged shot - where was the > cover from the centre halves? > >>> > >>> The 2nd goal was a howler for the keeper and for the third I have no > idea what Kisnorbo was doing when Lua Lua waltzed through to have a shot > without anyone near him. The 4th goals was Connelly's fault for not not > getting tight in his reshuffled centre half role and Kisnorbo was ball > watching again for their 5th. > >>> > >>> As you say the game was over at 2:0 and I take your point about the > fans response at the end. The abuse and booing that Rachubka got from the > Kop was frankly a disgrace. Yes he had a mare and I doubt we will see him > again but I don't expect to hear Leeds "fans" treat one of their own in > that way. > >>> > >>> Last night's result falls squarely with one person, the manager. He > took two major gambles in close season. Resigning Kisnorbo and taking on > this keeper. Coventry was bad but he should have been dropped after Posh > away because he cost us both goals. Kisnorbo has gone, end of conversation. > >>> > >>> Howson has become invisible since talk of extending his contract began > and Clayton was totally ineffective last night. Not one player would get > above 5 for last night's performance and I was surprised we did not start > last night with the 11 that finished the games against cardiff. Pugh is > useless. > >>> > >>> We need a keeper for Sunday because after the 1st goal last night we > lost the plot. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> Phill > >>> > >>> MOT > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:50:43 +0000 > >>>> From: [email protected] > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: [LU] Blackpool report > >>>> > >>>> It can really be summed up in one word - Rachubka ! We had a serious > talk on the way back with a few long time Leeds fans and we decided that it > was indeed the worst performance by a keeper in our lifetime. The only ones > that come close were Lukic v Arsenal (another 0 5 defeat) and Day v > Barnsley when we lost in our promotion season (cannot remember exaclty what > he did I just recall him being booed when he took goal kicks at the > end)After a slow start there came 2 incidents which decided the game - > their keeper spilled the ball and it fell to Kisnorbo who failed to score. > Soon after a regulation shot was parried by Rachubka and fell to Lua Lua > who tapped it home. What little confidence Rach had in himsef or the fans > had in him evaporated at that point.- this was illustrated soon after when > Rach spilled a simple gather and catch , it again fell to a striker whose > shot hit Lees - at the time I though Lees was unlucky, but watching it > again he > deliberatley > >>>> handled it and stopped a certain goal , so straight red it was. Rach > failed to save the pen but it was taken before Lees had left the pitch and > so had to be re-taken. A chance for Rach to redeem himself - if it was he > did not take it and the re taken kick again ended in the net. Game over. We > were all over the place after that and Blackpools slick passing game tore > us apart as we chased shadows for the rest of the half. Things got even > worse for Rachubka when he spilled yet another shot and again it fell to > the feet of the striker who tapped it home. Half time came and a number of > fans left. We wondered whether SG would subject Rach to another 45 mins of > hell or bring on the kid. He chose to give Cairns a go and we saw the last > of Rachubka for the night and probably for ever. A decent enough keeper but > whose confidence was shot after his schoolboy error v Coventry - playing > for Leeds just too much for him ?Second half we really went for a bit and > did > >>>> play with some pride and gave it a real go but it was never going to > happen. Then with 15 or so minutes left a goal against the run of play as > Lua Lua lashed it past Cairns to make it 4 and a few minutes after they cut > through our tiring defence and it was 5. Cue anoither mass exodus of fans. > However those who did stay then did the team and themselves proud with a > rousing waccoe and other songs, totally drowning out the Blackpool fans who > looked on in stunned silence. > >>>> If only we could get behind the team that well at the start of the > game.It is hard to look beyond Rachubka and his performance but on the down > side it was another blank for McCormack and I thought Keogh had his worse > game for us. On the up side Kisnorbo looked like he was getting back to > something like his old self and I thought Becchio looked lively when he > came on - he won a few headers and linked play well.A very bad day at the > office and only time will tell whether there will be any long term > consequences. I expect SG will get another keeper on loan ( a lad on the > bus said he had heard Lonergan himself say he was 4 weeks away from a > return) We cannot start with Cairns and I really cannot see how Rachubka > can play for us again - a player who looked decent enough in pre season but > who fell apart when it counted > >>>> Dave > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leedslist mailing list > >>>> Info and options: > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>> > >>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > >>> > >> > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Leedslist mailing list > >Info and options: > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > >PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
