Nah, Bates is a businessman. He would have a very clear (and non-risky) ROI on his 7m, and be investing that cash confident that he will get it back in a few years.
If he risked it on players, he would have a high risk strategy with potentially nothing in return. He is a businessman, not a football (or Leeds) fan. He is in this for the money, and hence all investments made will be low (or at least measured) risk. Alec On 19 January 2012 21:26, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Grayson is not the problem. How much has the club spent on radio stations > and refurbing executive boxes etc? The pavilion? Billys? Howards? Lee Dixon > let slip on footy focus that Grayson has said 7 million pounds has been > spent on the refurb. 7 million pounds that, spent effectively on the team, > would have achieved promotion to the PL and all it's associated tv cash. > > Why people fall for Bates' bullshit is totally beyond me. Open your eyes. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 19 Jan 2012, at 10:08, Lee Jones <em...@leedjones.co.uk> wrote: > > > Completely agree. I don't know how/why people seem to think that a > > team costing £650k should be out performing teams that have spent 10x > > that. Yes we have some good younsters in the squad, but the fact that > > Grayson has managed to get a team largely of freebies and loanees to > > within touching distance of the playoffs is a miracle. At the same > > time he's developing a number of players and selling them on to fund > > Bates' retirement fund. > > > > I fear if we swap manager now, not only will it cost us a lot to sack > > him after giving him a new contract (thus giving us even less to > > spend!) but reality may bit and we'll slip down the table > > consistently. > > > > On 19 January 2012 09:32, Alec McQueen <alec...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ah, some financial sense on the List, a rare treat. > >> > >> After a poor start, SG has actually been making this mid-table squad > >> overperform. We have been close or in the playoff places for most of the > >> season, and thus we HAVE been "overperforming" compared to our financial > >> position. > >> > >> SG is NOT the problem. The Leech who is extracting cash from the club > (in > >> my judgement) is the problem. It is otherwise known as asset stripping. > >> > >> Bates has an interesting business model. It is clear to me his goal is > to > >> maximise his revenue over the long term (from player sales) whilst > risking > >> next to none of his own cash (which would be required if he had desires > on > >> a Premier League place). > >> > >> Roll on the funeral. Can't be too far away. What is he now? 82? Doesn't > >> have a Korean son does he? > >> A > >> > >> On 19 January 2012 19:59, Damian Walsh <pussaydam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> In England there are 20 clubs with massively bigger income streams > than us, > >>> approximately 5/6 clubs with significantly bigger income streams than > us, > >>> and in any given year another 3 or 4 or 5 clubs with bigger income > streams > >>> for that particular year(*). Whatever the faults or qualities of a > Bates or > >>> a Grayson at any given time we can't compete financially with about 30 > >>> clubs - funnily enough that puts us about mid-table in the 2nd > division. We > >>> are where we can afford to be. > >>> > >>> The disappointment lies in not being able to get a better playing > >>> performance than our relative income stream, and there I'm afraid you > can > >>> only fault Grayson's football management (which I don't BTW) and Bates > >>> "risk" management (eg should we have gambled on Kilkenny last year?) - > I > >>> don't think that either of those points have been wildly adrift up > until > >>> now - lets see if MS lets slip his risk strategy or his promotion > target :( > >>> Lets see if Grayson ups the performance of his team. > >>> > >>> Damian > >>> > >>> (*) before wildly knee-jerking please factor in parachute payments and > >>> sugar-daddies. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Ian Murray < > ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Our football club is one of the biggest in the country, with income > >>>> streams to match. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: > >>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > >>> > >>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > > -- Alec McQueen 0418 328967 _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate