To be fair the MS stated that principle clearly and unashamedly. Reminds me of the same prurient puritanical bullshit managerial spirit of my previous place of employ. As part of a managerial team we were asked how best to make our health provider more profitable. I suggested to make a strategic alliance with the burial society and stop all treatment. That way we'd cut expenses and increase income. My next effort was an answer to how we should name a new area clinic. We needed a name name that would encompass the genuine desires of our member patients. My suggestion of calling the clinic the name of our biggest rivals was also poorly received. Health providers and football teams are not there to make fucking profits… maybe not catastrophic losses.
Sent from my iPhone. D"r Michael Benjamin. Community Psychiatrist. On 19 Jan 2012, at 12:33, Alec McQueen <[email protected]> wrote: > Nah, Bates is a businessman. He would have a very clear (and non-risky) > ROI on his 7m, and be investing that cash confident that he will get it > back in a few years. > > If he risked it on players, he would have a high risk strategy with > potentially nothing in return. > > He is a businessman, not a football (or Leeds) fan. He is in this for the > money, and hence all investments made will be low (or at least measured) > risk. > Alec > > On 19 January 2012 21:26, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Grayson is not the problem. How much has the club spent on radio stations >> and refurbing executive boxes etc? The pavilion? Billys? Howards? Lee Dixon >> let slip on footy focus that Grayson has said 7 million pounds has been >> spent on the refurb. 7 million pounds that, spent effectively on the team, >> would have achieved promotion to the PL and all it's associated tv cash. >> >> Why people fall for Bates' bullshit is totally beyond me. Open your eyes. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 19 Jan 2012, at 10:08, Lee Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Completely agree. I don't know how/why people seem to think that a >>> team costing £650k should be out performing teams that have spent 10x >>> that. Yes we have some good younsters in the squad, but the fact that >>> Grayson has managed to get a team largely of freebies and loanees to >>> within touching distance of the playoffs is a miracle. At the same >>> time he's developing a number of players and selling them on to fund >>> Bates' retirement fund. >>> >>> I fear if we swap manager now, not only will it cost us a lot to sack >>> him after giving him a new contract (thus giving us even less to >>> spend!) but reality may bit and we'll slip down the table >>> consistently. >>> >>> On 19 January 2012 09:32, Alec McQueen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Ah, some financial sense on the List, a rare treat. >>>> >>>> After a poor start, SG has actually been making this mid-table squad >>>> overperform. We have been close or in the playoff places for most of the >>>> season, and thus we HAVE been "overperforming" compared to our financial >>>> position. >>>> >>>> SG is NOT the problem. The Leech who is extracting cash from the club >> (in >>>> my judgement) is the problem. It is otherwise known as asset stripping. >>>> >>>> Bates has an interesting business model. It is clear to me his goal is >> to >>>> maximise his revenue over the long term (from player sales) whilst >> risking >>>> next to none of his own cash (which would be required if he had desires >> on >>>> a Premier League place). >>>> >>>> Roll on the funeral. Can't be too far away. What is he now? 82? Doesn't >>>> have a Korean son does he? >>>> A >>>> >>>> On 19 January 2012 19:59, Damian Walsh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In England there are 20 clubs with massively bigger income streams >> than us, >>>>> approximately 5/6 clubs with significantly bigger income streams than >> us, >>>>> and in any given year another 3 or 4 or 5 clubs with bigger income >> streams >>>>> for that particular year(*). Whatever the faults or qualities of a >> Bates or >>>>> a Grayson at any given time we can't compete financially with about 30 >>>>> clubs - funnily enough that puts us about mid-table in the 2nd >> division. We >>>>> are where we can afford to be. >>>>> >>>>> The disappointment lies in not being able to get a better playing >>>>> performance than our relative income stream, and there I'm afraid you >> can >>>>> only fault Grayson's football management (which I don't BTW) and Bates >>>>> "risk" management (eg should we have gambled on Kilkenny last year?) - >> I >>>>> don't think that either of those points have been wildly adrift up >> until >>>>> now - lets see if MS lets slip his risk strategy or his promotion >> target :( >>>>> Lets see if Grayson ups the performance of his team. >>>>> >>>>> Damian >>>>> >>>>> (*) before wildly knee-jerking please factor in parachute payments and >>>>> sugar-daddies. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Ian Murray < >> [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Our football club is one of the biggest in the country, with income >>>>>> streams to match. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>> >>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>> >> > > > > -- > Alec McQueen > 0418 328967 > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
