Hey
The Speed thing did not seem to be a suicide or depression but a gesture
going very wrong.
Theses are a major source of deaths.
Depressives just don't cope. There are very few [IMO no] depressive
suicides that were not abundantly clear at least in retrospect. They don't
come out of the blue.
I have sympathy for Speed and his family. But  this never 'felt like' a
depressive suicide. Not that it matters to the family who will have to cope
with a lot of anger and guilt.
O'Brien's story on the other hand does sound like a
'breakdown'. Diminished global functioning as a reaction [seemingly] to a
broken meaningful relationship.
Interesting the dynamics of the announcement.What are the real motives of
both sides and what brought them to act? Nothing really changed, so why did
it change?
Most importantly what does this mean for moral in the dressing room?


On 31 January 2012 18:43, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Totally agree. It's so easy to be wise after the event. None of Gary
> Speed's long-term friends in football (Gary Mac, Shearer, Savage etc) had
> any
> idea of how he was feeling. Why should Grayson have interpreted AOB's
> refusal
> to  play any other way? Remember this happened before Gary's death
> highlighted the  issue of depression among sports people.
>
> Let's hope it's all in the past for all concerned, and let's  wish Andy
> O'Brien well.
>
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