Actually it's not a right wing politician but a comedian (albeit a political one) and they are trying to ban him from performing.
Anelka says its anti-establishment NOT anti-Semitic. Really we all ought to be a bit less touchy on these things, BUT the bottom line is that Anelka used it to push his ideological views and that is against the rules and so he'll be banned, it would be the same if it was the Black Power salute -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Murray Sent: 21 January 2014 07:04 To: Eric B Cc: Leeds leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: bloody hell..... No Ed, what I am saying is that in France the gesture is well known as an anti Semitic gesture and Anelka (being French) is very good mates with some loon right wing politician. The gesture was made on the day the French govt. tried to ban (or take some action, can't remember exactly) that politician's party. I really don't know why you have to be so contrary. I wasn't even expressing a view, I was simply passing on what I heard. What is Anelka's explanation for the gesture? Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Jan 2014, at 14:56, "Eric B" <[email protected]> wrote: > > "French guy on guardian football weekly said Anelka knew exactly what he was doing and should be banned." > > yeah well I dont think what one guys says about what the other one was thinking would hold up in court. right? You re the laywer, you tell me. > > That quenelle thing is actually interesting in a way. it started off > as either an anti establishmentthing I read. since then like > everything that gets popular its been bastardized and used left and right for abuse. thats not cool of course, I dont condone any racism and/or racial abuse. having said that I take issues with far right and far left as well. > > BBC got a good article on the quenelle. it states amongst other things that some think its a movement of defiance against the establishment, so maybe anarchistic. A french academic guy says that its likely that most that use the sign dont even know what it means. Finally a UK expert on french right wing said: "Dieudonne has been involved with anti-racist left-wing activists as well as far-right activists. "At the moment, the use of this gesture seems too diffuse to fit any simple right-left interpretation." > > I cant disagree with that last sentence, I ve read too many interpretations of that thing. I do prefer the real Quenelle as its defined in the larousse gastronomic though. > > >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >> French guy on guardian football weekly said Anelka knew exactly what he was doing and should be banned. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On 21 Jan 2014, at 13:56, "Dr Michael Benjamin" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > What would you have him do? >> > >> > >> > >> > Dr Michael Benjamin, >> > Community Psychiatrist >> > ------------------------------- >> > myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT >> > http://www.myRay.com >> > http://www.myRay.org >> > ------------------------------ >> > Mental Health: >> > http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com >> > -------------------------------- >> > Auditing || Quality Control >> > http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ >> > -------------------------------- >> > Blog: >> > http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com >> > >> > >> >> On 21 January 2014 01:23, Eric B <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I read the owner is jewish or something like that. no wonder he pulled out? >> >> however its a bit harsh to penalize an entire club for what Anelka >> >> did. Its not like hes been at the club for a long time, nor will >> >> he stay for a long time assuming he goes on like he has in the >> >> past. >> >> >> >> I think Im banning zoopla now ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Richard Naef < >> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> from BBC ; >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> "Zoopla will end their sponsorship of West Brom at the end of the >> >>> season over Nicolas Anelka's "quenelle" gesture." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Fuck me, imagine how bad something must be for those bastards at >> >>> Zoopla >> >> to >> >>> take offence!!!!!! >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Leedslist mailing list >> >>> Info and options: >> >>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >>> >> >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> >>> Rest In Peace old lad >> >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leedslist mailing list >> >> Info and options: >> >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> >> Rest In Peace old lad >> >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leedslist mailing list >> > Info and options: >> > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> > >> > John 'Grampa' Sykes >> > Rest In Peace old lad >> > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> > MARCHING ON TOGETHER > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
