Cheers Damian. My points exactly. Both the "inventor" of the gesture and
Anelka said its an anti-establishment genture (hear hear Ian M.) however
its been taken by others and over time turned into something else.

I read some guy stating its an inverted nazi salute but wouldnt that be
taking your left arm and put it down and backwards making you look like an
arse. The quenelle is certainly not the opposite of a raise right arm.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Damian Walsh <[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm convinced that it is anti-semitic. Now - but probably not at the start.
>
> An example of the vacuum-effect you inevitably have when people are not
> allowed to have a rational debate about open sores on the body politic:
>
> Statesman - I really feel unconfortable about the Israeli State's policies
> of occupation, repression and assasination
> Sophist - You evil anti-semitic bastid, to even think in those terms makes
> you a Nazi
> Statesman - I'll just keep quiet then and leave the ongoing debate to
> suicide bombers and their ilk
> Socrates - No one desires evil
> Sophist - K'off you Nazi Cnut, you will burn in hell like all those who
> don't accept my own vision of what is right and just
>
> Or, unfortunately, something very similar......
>
> Damian
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Joe Skinner <
> [email protected]
> > wrote:
>
> > Forget about all the noise about whether the gesture is racist or not. An
> > inverted Nazi salute is never a great idea (is the real one banned, like
> > swastikas?).
> >
> > He did in in 'support' of his 'mate', a comedian (who is variously at
> > best/worst, a racist, anti-semite or anti-zionist) who was/is being
> banned
> > for continual use of said gesture. [How can you ban a comedian?]
> >
> > Whether he thinks he's being anti-establishment for using it, he's a tit.
> >
> > Anelka is an even bigger tit or at best, dim witted and a moron for
> > thinking he'd get away with it or face no consequences.
> >
> >
> >
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