I do wonder if The Incredible Hock was the best candidate who else applied ?
Sent from my iPhone On 18 Jul 2014, at 22:51, Damian Walsh <[email protected]> wrote: > Yours is the curate's question, sort of good in parts. > > The bit that makes me wonder is how did Hockaday be in a position to get > the job in the first place? Did he write in on spec? Was he head-hunted? Is > he somebody's mate? > > Results will tell us if he just got on the end of the wrong queue when he > needed a pee during the stadium tour....... > > Damian > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Ian Murray <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Question: would you have recruited the hock? >> >> If yes, why? If no, why not? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 19 Jul 2014, at 0:58, "Phill Shields" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Cellino ran a small club with average gates of 5k for 22 years and 17 of >> them were in Seria A. Fact that is a success. >>> >>> McCormack looked for any excuse to jump ship and if he hadn't I would >> still have ripped Fulham hands off for £11m. >>> >>> You are focusing on Hockaday's last job so why am I the straw clutching? >>> >>> I am not bothered about changing your mind. For now I'll support until I >> have reason not to. >>> >>> MOT >>> >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Mobile >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Ian Murray >>> Date:18/07/2014 17:04 (GMT+00:00) >>> To: Phill Shields >>> Cc: [email protected],leeds list >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino >>> >>> The Dawn you see is a nuclear explosion. >>> >>> Clutching at straws with the Hockaday PL coach thing mate. The thing is >> you know that too. >>> >>> McCormack handing a transfer request? Hmmm couldn't be due to the fact >> that we are an absolute shambles or anything…could it? >>> >>> Christ we all want Leeds to do well. But we won't like this it's so >> bloody obvious. We shouldn't put up with this shit. >>> >>> Recognising this for what it is - a sick joke - does not make those of >> us who are anti Cellino and Hockaday non Leeds. >>> >>> It's our club and we should make our opinions unequivocally known. >>> >>> The Cagliari fans didn't love Cellino - they are very regional people >> (especially on Cagliari), and supported him because it was billed as >> Sardinia v Italy. I should know, my ex was (is) Sardinian. >>> >>> MOT >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 18 Jul 2014, at 23:49, "Phill Shields" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>>> McCormack put in a transfer request. None of us wanted him to go but he >> got more than double what he is worth. >>>> >>>> When has Cellini fleeced the fans? He was very popular with Calgary >> fans which is pretty unique in that country. >>>> >>>> We all have reservations about Hockaday but he does have PL experience >> as a coach which is what he is employed as. >>>> >>>> I am hoping his is a new dawn. >>>> MOT >>>> >>>> On Jul 18, 2014 4:08 PM, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I applaud the optimism mate but McCormack kept us up pretty much single >> handedly last year. McD did lose the plot and I would have optimism if we >> had recruited somebody of repute and didn't have a lunatic convicted >> criminal pulling the strings. >>>> >>>> People say it's an unknown? That's bollocks. We know what we are >> getting with Hockaday. A former 3rd rate player and failed non-league >> manager. >>>> >>>> We know what we are getting with Cellino - a crook who has a track >> record of enriching himself at the expense of the club and taking the piss >> out of fans' loyalty. >>>> >>>> What have we seen, in terms of action, that suggests this is anything >> other than a car crash? >>>> >>>> I would love to be wrong - but I'm not. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 18 Jul 2014, at 22:56, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don't really get all the negativity - if you look at last seasons >> team - which stayed up with no real concerns the only player who has left >> of all those with the highest appearances is McCormack >>>>> Kenny is also likely to be on his way / not getting a game >>>>> Last years first XI based on appearances would look like this >>>>> Kenny >>>>> Byram, Lees, Pearce, Warnock >>>>> Murphy, Mowatt, Austin, Tonge >>>>> McCormack, Smith >>>>> >>>>> Kenny has been replaced by a highly rated 23 year old. >>>>> Of the others it is reasonable to expect Byram, to be a lot better >> than he was last year, Murphy, Mowatt and Smith should also benefit from >> their experiences of last year. Pearce and Lees should be of the same >> standard. Warnock / Tonge may get slightly worse due to age catching up >> with them a bit. >>>>> >>>>> So the addition of the two buys so far Bianchi and Doukara - if no >> better than what we have presumably will not play and therefore will make >> no difference -but if they are better than what we have then they must >> improve the team - that seems logical to me. >>>>> >>>>> So it all depends on whether we can replace Ross - I doubt he would / >> will have as good a season next time as he did last year - and at present >> his replacement is Morison , someone who excited many when he signed last >> year (especially the Becchio haters) but due to injury etc never really got >> going. >>>>> >>>>> As far as managing goes, a number felt from the word go that >> McDermott did not have a clue, even those of us who supported him at the >> start felt that he had 'lost it' by the end of the season, so even if >> Hockaday is useless he is no worse than McDermott, Warnock, Grayson, >> McAllister etc all of whom listers were happy / glad / content to see leave. >>>>> >>>>> Yes Hock is a big gamble but one we know nothing about, so given that >> 9 of the team who kept us up comfortably enough, and who even threatened >> the play offs at some point are still here, the only 'relegation-worry' I >> can possibly see is losing Ross and not replacing him with either a system >> or another forward who can ensure the same amount of goals >>>>> >>>>> As others have said, we are going into the unknown with Hockaday and >> the foreign imports but lets wait and see before we all claim we are bound >> to be relegated and go slitting our wrists -the reality does not seem that >> bad >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>> >>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
