Question: would you have recruited the hock? If yes, why? If no, why not?
Sent from my iPhone > On 19 Jul 2014, at 0:58, "Phill Shields" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Cellino ran a small club with average gates of 5k for 22 years and 17 of them > were in Seria A. Fact that is a success. > > McCormack looked for any excuse to jump ship and if he hadn't I would still > have ripped Fulham hands off for £11m. > > You are focusing on Hockaday's last job so why am I the straw clutching? > > I am not bothered about changing your mind. For now I'll support until I have > reason not to. > > MOT > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Ian Murray > Date:18/07/2014 17:04 (GMT+00:00) > To: Phill Shields > Cc: [email protected],leeds list > Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino > > The Dawn you see is a nuclear explosion. > > Clutching at straws with the Hockaday PL coach thing mate. The thing is you > know that too. > > McCormack handing a transfer request? Hmmm couldn't be due to the fact that > we are an absolute shambles or anything…could it? > > Christ we all want Leeds to do well. But we won't like this it's so bloody > obvious. We shouldn't put up with this shit. > > Recognising this for what it is - a sick joke - does not make those of us who > are anti Cellino and Hockaday non Leeds. > > It's our club and we should make our opinions unequivocally known. > > The Cagliari fans didn't love Cellino - they are very regional people > (especially on Cagliari), and supported him because it was billed as Sardinia > v Italy. I should know, my ex was (is) Sardinian. > > MOT > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 18 Jul 2014, at 23:49, "Phill Shields" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> McCormack put in a transfer request. None of us wanted him to go but he got >> more than double what he is worth. >> >> When has Cellini fleeced the fans? He was very popular with Calgary fans >> which is pretty unique in that country. >> >> We all have reservations about Hockaday but he does have PL experience as a >> coach which is what he is employed as. >> >> I am hoping his is a new dawn. >> MOT >> >> On Jul 18, 2014 4:08 PM, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >> I applaud the optimism mate but McCormack kept us up pretty much single >> handedly last year. McD did lose the plot and I would have optimism if we >> had recruited somebody of repute and didn't have a lunatic convicted >> criminal pulling the strings. >> >> People say it's an unknown? That's bollocks. We know what we are getting >> with Hockaday. A former 3rd rate player and failed non-league manager. >> >> We know what we are getting with Cellino - a crook who has a track record of >> enriching himself at the expense of the club and taking the piss out of >> fans' loyalty. >> >> What have we seen, in terms of action, that suggests this is anything other >> than a car crash? >> >> I would love to be wrong - but I'm not. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On 18 Jul 2014, at 22:56, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > I don't really get all the negativity - if you look at last seasons team - >> > which stayed up with no real concerns the only player who has left of all >> > those with the highest appearances is McCormack >> > Kenny is also likely to be on his way / not getting a game >> > Last years first XI based on appearances would look like this >> > Kenny >> > Byram, Lees, Pearce, Warnock >> > Murphy, Mowatt, Austin, Tonge >> > McCormack, Smith >> > >> > Kenny has been replaced by a highly rated 23 year old. >> > Of the others it is reasonable to expect Byram, to be a lot better than he >> > was last year, Murphy, Mowatt and Smith should also benefit from their >> > experiences of last year. Pearce and Lees should be of the same standard. >> > Warnock / Tonge may get slightly worse due to age catching up with them a >> > bit. >> > >> > So the addition of the two buys so far Bianchi and Doukara - if no better >> > than what we have presumably will not play and therefore will make no >> > difference -but if they are better than what we have then they must >> > improve the team - that seems logical to me. >> > >> > So it all depends on whether we can replace Ross - I doubt he would / will >> > have as good a season next time as he did last year - and at present his >> > replacement is Morison , someone who excited many when he signed last year >> > (especially the Becchio haters) but due to injury etc never really got >> > going. >> > >> > As far as managing goes, a number felt from the word go that McDermott did >> > not have a clue, even those of us who supported him at the start felt that >> > he had 'lost it' by the end of the season, so even if Hockaday is useless >> > he is no worse than McDermott, Warnock, Grayson, McAllister etc all of >> > whom listers were happy / glad / content to see leave. >> > >> > Yes Hock is a big gamble but one we know nothing about, so given that 9 of >> > the team who kept us up comfortably enough, and who even threatened the >> > play offs at some point are still here, the only 'relegation-worry' I can >> > possibly see is losing Ross and not replacing him with either a system or >> > another forward who can ensure the same amount of goals >> > >> > As others have said, we are going into the unknown with Hockaday and the >> > foreign imports but lets wait and see before we all claim we are bound to >> > be relegated and go slitting our wrists -the reality does not seem that bad >> > >> > Dave >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leedslist mailing list >> > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> > >> > John 'Grampa' Sykes >> > Rest In Peace old lad >> > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> > MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
