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> On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:38, <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The Brexit debate IMHO boils down to two things: > > > 1) Xenophobia, no sorry, ahem, let's call it immigration. > > > 2) the French & Germans having a part to play in any law in the UK. Even if > it's perfectly sensible. WW2 ad nauseum. > > > 1) is laughable given there are more immigrants from outside the EU arriving > to the UK. Those that are THERE - EU or non EU - one assumes that a greater > proportion than the locals are working and presumably paying tax? Then > somehow it's OK to be a British immigrant abroad despite eg 100s of 1000s in > Spain living the way the British don't like the "foreigners" to live in the > UK... > > > 2) whilst the EU is imperfect, on the whole the EU laws are sensible and are > the result of significant distillation to weed out any nonsense that some of > the more muppet nations might pass themselves locally. Besides, there are > two paths in the end: out and be like the US, or stay and take the best bits > of Germany and Sweden. I know which is preferable. > > > > If in the end it is a Brexit, the end result will be..... just the same as > now, except it's an additional layer of admin. > > > Great news for lawyers and civil servants. Boris, Nigel too. > > > BMW > > > > > From: Ian Murray > > Sent: Sunday, 12 June, 17:54 > > Subject: Re: [LU] British passport eligibility! > > To: Matt Anderson > > Cc: leeds list > > > > I think the difference is that they were moving from a foreign country and > you were moving within the same country. > > > Most don't save and go home, most stay. That's not in any way a criticism of > them, but I think we should have a say who comes to our country and the way > in which they come. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > >>> On 12 Jun 2016, at 23:50, Matt Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> Still don't get it. I can and intend to move to France or Spain one day and >> I can without much hassle. People come here but a lot come work and go home. >> I've known many from work, 2 or 3 years of using their skills to improve my >> business saving up and then going home. No difference to Brits going to >> Dubai, Qatar etc... > > >> What's the difference with me moving to London 20 years ago and living >> amongst cockneys and someone from Poland coming here?? I can't distinguish >> myself and my life choices and theirs. > > >> Sent from my iPad > > >>> On 12 Jun 2016, at 16:41, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> I wasn't being serious mate. > > >>> But perhaps citizenship laws might be more fair if we didn't have to deal >>> with 300,000 new residents per year. Numbers which on any view are >>> unsustainable. Yeah yeah, they work shit jobs, English people are lazy blah >>> blah. They still use our public services, which we pay for. Such services >>> are more expensive because we have to have information and so on in Polish >>> and Lithuanian. > > >>> The Catholic Church is booming though. So there's a real plus for our >>> communities... > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>>> On 12 Jun 2016, at 23:20, Richard Naef <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: > > >>>> ! > > >>>>> Yeah please do. If your kids don't get a passport, it's another leave > >>>> reason. > > >>>> UK citizenship rules have nothing to do with the EU. Rules are set by > >>>> parliament. EEA (different from the EU) citizens have a specific path to > >>>> citizenship, just like people with British parentage, but born abroad. > >>>> Assuming we stayed in the EEA nothing would change by Leave. > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leedslist mailing list > >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
