I quite like the way the IPL do their playoffs: top two play each other, with 
the winner going to the final and the loser playing the winner of the match 
between the lower two.

It means finishing higher earns you a second bite at the cherry, but also that 
a team finishing stronger can come through and win.

Ed.

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> On 20 May 2017, at 22:54, Graham Thirkill <graham.thirki...@btinternet.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  Dave Nattan said…."Quote
>> I stand by it - I said the same thing when I was at Wembley for the 
>> Doncaster game. So as the fireworks were going off etc I was saying to my 
>> son and mates that the whole thing was over the top, ridiculous and 
>> embarrassing - that was BEFORE kick off so I did not know that the game was 
>> going to be a let down
>> I have said it on a number of occasions since and posted it on the list  - 
>> even when it looked like we would qualify for the play offs and hopefully 
>> the final a couple of months ago -so clearly not 'sour grapes’  
>> Yes, of course I will be there if we get there, and yes I will celebrate the 
>> lap of honour with the rest of them but I will stand by my thoughts that the 
>> play offs are great and keep the season alive BUT the final is really over 
>> the top and should be made more low key rather than making out it is some 
>> great achievement…QUOTE”
>> Dave
> =======================
> 
> A tad hypocritical may I suggest???????? You can’t ride two horses with one 
> arse surely. Dave…or maybe you are doing and can. Can’t you see, you would be 
> enjoying and celebrating something you are dead against………….or is it 
> me?????????
> Cheers and Beers
> Thirkers/098\
> 
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> 
> 
> Thirkers
>>     From: Graham Thirkill <graham.thirki...@btinternet.com>
>> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
>> Sent: Saturday, 20 May 2017, 18:40
>> Subject: [LU] Play off final is ridiculous
>> 
>> 
>> Dave Nattan wrote…..
>> 
>> Subject: [LU] Play off final is ridiculous
>> 
>> Is there a more stupid game in football than a play off final ?
>> Whilst I accept the inherent unfairness of the play off system, whereby a
>> team coming 6th can get promoted over a team coming 3rd, it does have some
>> good points.It really helps keep a season alive for so many teams and means
>> that unless you are in a relegation fight you almost always think 'if we win
>> these next few games we can get in the play offs'
>> I really like the play off semi finals and the atmosphere and tension that
>> they create with full houses at both games but the final is total nonsense I
>> have just had the misfortune whilst flicking through the channels to turn on
>> Sky sports just as the two teams (millwall and bradford) came out to
>> fireworks, the red carpet, the presentation line for dignitaries and then
>> the national anthemn - totally over the top and ridiculous This is NOT a cup
>> final ffs, or even a celebration of winning stuff, as per Community Shield
>> or Super Cup, this is two teams who were not good enough to win their league
>> or even come second - these are two teams who are basically, losers. Yet
>> here they are in a game that has all the hall marks of a real final, even to
>> the presenting of a trophy at the end of it This is not sour grapes on my
>> part - I felt it at Cardiff and even more so at Wembley when we were there-
>> it really bugs me.
>> IF this game has to be played at a neutral ground, then play it at one of
>> the old semi final grounds (Villa, Scum, Hillsboro etc) and play it with no
>> razzmatazz and no trophy (as i have said before it should be played at 3 in
>> the morning behind closed doors with the player being sneaked in and out in
>> disguise !) Yes promotion is great for the club involved but this actual
>> game does not deserve the accoutrements that surround it and I would say
>> this even if it end up being us involved next season So keep the play off
>> system but please change the format of the final….Dave.You must have felt 
>> very strongy to have posted the above
>> 
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>> 
>> It sounds exactly like sour grapes to me, I cannot imagine, you or any 
>> anyone, else posting this if Leeds United 
>> were running round the Wembley pitch celebrating victory. What would you be 
>> doing, or wouldn’t you have 
>> bothered to go, to support this “Stupid, = ridiculous.= over the top"………your 
>> description!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
>> 
>> QUOTES FROM YOUR POST
>> 
>> Is there a more stupid game in football than a play off final ?
>> 
>> (as i have said before it should be played at 3 in the morning behind closed 
>> doors with the player being sneaked in 
>> and out in disguise !)
>> 
>> then play it at one of the old semi final grounds (Villa, Scum, Hillsboro 
>> etc) and play it with no razzmatazz and no trophy 
>> 
>> So keep the play off system but please change the format of the final
>> 
>> these are two teams who are basically, losers. Yet here they are in a game 
>> that has all the hall marks of a real final, 
>> even to the presenting of a trophy at the end of it
>> 
>> this is two teams who were not good enough to win their league or even come 
>> second - 
>> 
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>> 
>> Surely Dave, when you calm down you may realise some of your points are 
>> quite ridiculous…….
>> 
>> Cheers and Beers
>> Thirkers\098/
>> 
>> 
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