Most of the games so far (and I cannot see it changing) have been allocated on
away season ticket first then 80 % ST holder and 20 % members - BUT the 80%
has been on a loyalty basis - need to have applied for tickets for so many away
games (ST holders cannot apply for the remainging 20% which are memebers only)
Bolton was 'open sale' but sold out within an hour (5,600 from memory)
I do think that loyalty is best - I know when I went to most away games I was
well annoyed when someone who had not been all season beat me on the net to the
biggest two games at the end of the season (Preston sticks in my mind, albeit
I was happy in the end since we lost 4 nil and I did get a ticket for the play
off semi the following week
Having said that it needs to be properly 'policed' and this is where it falls
down
Back in my England watching games points (later called caps) were awarded -
3pts for an away,2 pts for a home friendly and 1point for a home competitive.
They soon realised it was being abused (fans buying tickets for away games and
not going) - so at first they told everyone to keep proof of travel and hotels
and bar bills etc and they contacted fans at random to prove they had actually
beenThis did not really work so they then made people give their travel details
in advance - for all fans . Even this did not work as fans printed up false
flight tickets and the like., so they ended up with everyone having to pick up
match tickets either in the town the day before the game - they set up an
office for this or from a ticket collection point. You had to go in person with
ID - it was a real pain but it did work
I think Cardiff will show the misuse of LUFC system - we got an extra 500
tickets on open sale after it was announced as a TV game and only a week before
the fixture. These sold out straight away - it will be interesting to see if
the away end is full or these just bought them for the 'loyalty'
I have read about one club recently (?Brighton?) moaning that they sold 2,000
tickets for their league cup game but only 560 turned up - something like that
As for the size of allocation - clubs tend to get the lower allocation on a
'sale or return basis' but if they ask for more they have to pay for them all
even if unsold. This was one of Bates big arguments with fans - if we sold out
of the 2,ooo allocation for example they would offer us another 2,000 but we
had to pay for them all, and only had 1000 more fans wanting to go, so Bates
did not take the extra. As I say with Cardiff Radz has bought the extra hoping
to sell them all
It is a difficult one - I do think fans who go to most away games do deserve
the hard to come by tickets but it does need some system where fans need to
prove that they went
Dave
From: Andy Brown <[email protected]>
To: Ted <[email protected]>
Cc: Leeds List <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 25 September 2017, 15:00
Subject: Re: [LU] Saiz!
What are the actual rules for the away allocation? Most clubs don't sell out so
you think they'd be glad of an extra £20K in ticket revenue. I can appreciate
that it might be hard to police / steward but Fulham last season was more of us
than them and very well behaved.
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> On 25 Sep 2017, at 14:19, Ted <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 25 September 2017 Nick wrote:
>>
>>
>> He keeps asking about getting to away games...that is a whole other
>> complaint for me...been a ST holder for donkeys...try to go to 4 or 5
>> away each year but just can't get them (and certainly not as a group of
>> 2 or 3 together)...
>>
>>
>
> Yeah - it's a gripe with me too! I'm the same, season ticket holder for
> ages & would like to go to 5 or 6 away games - not much of a chance!
>
> You've either got to be sat on a PC when they go on sale, or have loyalty
> points which you can only get by going to away games which I can't get
> tickets for cos I haven't got loyalty points!!!!!
>
> I know quite a few who buy away tickets with no intention of going, just to
> get loyalty points, and then sell the tickets on. Then, when a loyalty
> game comes up they're in the front of the queue - pretty annoying! And it
> irks me that some young "new" fan can just go to a handful of away games
> and they then get preference over us!
>
> I know everyone's got a different opinion about loyalty points but there
> must be a fairer method?
>
> How about:
>
> 1 point for League Home games
>
> 2 points for home League Cup games (as they're usually harder to shift)
>
> 2 points for away games
>
> Altho this would still favour people who go to more away games it won't
> alienate season ticket holders!
>
> I always look forward to 3rd (& hopefully 4th) round of the FA Cup to go
> away, but I fear no matter who we play this season - if its away - I won't
> get a ticket.
>
> Last one I tried for and failed was the League Cup game with Liverpool.
> Was sat at my PC bang on 10.30 and still failed to get one!
>
> Oh well, be even worse if we ever do get promoted!!!!
>
> Ted H
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