I think it’s a fair point. You’d think that Forshaw’s passing stats would look quite good because all he ever does is pass slowly sideways and backwards. Sometimes he even manages to mess that up though. I imagine if Kalvin is attempting risky long range passes it’s because Bielsa has told him to.
Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Aug 2019, at 15:55, Nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote: > > that 60 yarder for Bamford to spoon just wide on Saturday was Hoddlesque > (without the god bothering) > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats. >> Date: 14 August 2019 at 15:39:30 BST >> To: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com>, Richard Walker >> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>, "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" >> <leedslist@gn.apc.org> >> >> If you don't try difficult things and occasionally fail (16%) then what's >> the point. Perhaps some of the 16% did cause problems but that's what the >> other 10 players are for and Bielsa isn't going to criticise him for that. >> >> I think Dave made the point that comparing Batty to Macca was pointless as >> there attempts at passing were of completely different types. KP is a >> defensive midfielder, very little gets through BUT he also sets up counter >> attacks and plays defence splitting passes. If you think he's average your >> are entitled to your opinion, but I just think that's plain wrong and not >> born out by the facts of last season or the beginning of this, maybe you >> need to amend your expectations of a top championship DM? Who are you >> comparing him with? >> >> Sent from my Mobile. >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 3:07:22 PM >> To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; leeds list >> (leedslist@gn.apc.org) <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef >> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats. >> >> I recommend you watch again Richard and actually look for the passes he gave >> away. They were problematic. >> >> Phillips has come on leaps and bounds but he does have issues. >> >> Nick >> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 09:56:57 AM EDT, Richard Naef >> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> LOL. 15 long passes, 84 Medium and Short. >> >> Sent from my Mobile. >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:47:35 PM >> To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; leeds list >> (leedslist@gn.apc.org) <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef >> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats. >> >> Most of the game Phillips sat in midfield with noone anywhere near him. >> During the game I told the boy I could sit there and do that too and give >> the ball away less (some hyperbole there of course). With Rich a bit here, >> stats do not tell everything. 100 short passes looks great and is not >> necessarily a bad thing but when 4/5 through balls go straight to the other >> side and sets up their attack there is nothing wrong with pointing that out. >> >> Nick >> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 05:48:08 AM EDT, Richard Naef >> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> I’m definitely a snowflake and I hug trees and don’t wash regularly, but >> when deciding on things I prefer facts to opinions, which of course you are >> entitled to have and express on an open forum. Of course you don’t like >> facts and stats that contradict your opinions, who does, but just ignoring >> them and accusing others of getting upset is a bit rich (pun intended). If >> you think 16% is “frequent” in the context of a fast flowing match against >> committed (albeit limited) opponents, can you give us an example of the >> stats you would expect from an ABOVE average player, one that would reduce >> the pain you say you feel from watching one of our most improved and >> committed players? C’mon Rich, we all know your schtick on here & Twitter >> is to be angry and contrarian to wind people up, but you’re amongst friends >> here, just once, just for us, crack and smile and gives us a WHOOP – promise >> we won’t tell anyone. >> >> From: Richard Walker >> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>> >> Sent: 14 August 2019 10:37 >> To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>) >> <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>; Richard Naef >> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats. >> >> stats are stats and looking at those they mean nothing. For instance they >> don't include his shot that went over the stand in the first half. >> >> I'd prefer to go with what I saw and overall I thought Philips did ok with a >> definite improvement in the second half with one or two really good passes. >> >> First half though, he was dreadful. His passing was all over the place, >> frequently giving the ball away (that must have been the 16% inaccurate >> passes). The most worrying thing is when he got done for pace by Towell and >> you could see he just didn't have the acceleration to recover. >> >> I like Philips, he's a local lad and he's doing ok at this moment in time >> but let's have a reality check. Some fans are saying he could be England >> captain whereas I think he's a good championship player and would struggle >> in the PL. >> >> It makes me laugh when fans get all upset when you point out a player's >> faults in a match and get all abusive and start crying particular on Twitter >> however there are 1 or 2 snowflakes on here. Come on, grow up FFS. >> >> On Wednesday, 14 August 2019, 09:01:10 BST, Richard Naef >> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk><mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>> >> wrote: >> >> >> Kalvin Phillips vs. Salford City: >> >> 128 touches (most) 🌟 >> 99 successful passes (most) 🌟 >> 84% pass accuracy >> 15 successful long passes >> 5 ball recoveries >> 2 chances created >> 2 accurate crosses >> 2 shots on-target >> >> Defensive midfielder. >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email >> leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org><mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org>> >> >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email >> leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org> >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
