On a slightly tangental thread, I went to see Hertha Berlin v Dynamo Dresden 
last week in a German Cup match. Dresden brought around 30,000 fans - they’re 
in a lower league, and a real grudge match to boot, with lots of extra police, 
no alcohol in the ground etc. 

What an eye-opener in terms of atmosphere - best I’ve experienced for many a 
year. Dresden fans unfurled 2 big f*** off banners which, genuinely menacingly, 
said YELLOW MADNESS. Given their end was like a firework display all night 
madness was the right word. Train there was fun - absolutely rammed with fans 
of both teams, carrying crates of beer, and putting the empties back in the 
crate.

2-2 after 90, 3-3 after 120, Hertha won 5-4 on pens. 70,400 there. I heartily 
recommend a visit if you’re in Berlin, especially if it coincides with Bayern 
or Dortmund.  The atmosphere was amazing.

John

> On 7 Nov 2019, at 13:28, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Did Reading a couple of years ago. Just signed up as a member on their site 
> and was allowed to purchase tickets. 
> Nick
>    On Thursday, November 7, 2019, 06:26:33 AM EST, Graham Longbottom 
> <[email protected]> wrote:  
> 
>>> Does anyone regularly go in with home fans regularly these days, or just
> not bother going?
> 
> I try to do as many London/HC based games as poss, generally in Home seats.
> 
> Most recently Charlton, where I was with a gang of Charlton supporting
> friends in any case, so apart from the jeering at the result, given our
> dominant performance, it was fairly comfortable.
> QPR and Brentford last year there were plenty of Leeds support in the home
> areas - some wearing colours even.
> Wouldn't do it at Millwall though.
> I have become used to not reacting to Leeds goals, but still don't stand
> for opposition ones.
> 
> Frustratingly, I can't get tickets for Luton, even though that's
> geographically closest to home.
> Even Luton supporting mates couldn't get extra's before it sold out.
> Anyone with a spare - either end - please let me know, I'll be happy to
> take it off you.
> 
> Graham/glongbot
> 07939 212058
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 11:40 AM Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'll be coming up on Saturday, and it would be great to bump into some old
>> faces, or others never met before.
>> 
>> The Midnight Bell pub that Dave mentioned looks quite handy if coming from
>> the Station, or town, but not very accessible on a busy day for those
>> coming from out of town by car.  Guess we could park up as normal and get a
>> taxi, if we are early enough.  The pre-match Fish and Chips has become a
>> necessity too, even though the queue can be half way up the road.
>> 
>> Have recently taken to parking at the Drysalters, but the beer is pretty
>> crap as is the TV reception if there is an early game on.
>> It costs a fiver, but is lot easier to get out of than the main car parks.
>> 
>> 3pm home games are quite a rarity (Yes I know we've had 2 in a row :)).
>> As I've got older I'm less keen on leaving home at 7am (early games), or
>> getting home in the small hours from evening matches.
>> 
>> Even as a Gold Member, away matches are impossible to get tickets for.  I
>> used to go to certain games in with the home supporters, but that seems to
>> be less tolerated these days, unless you go completely incognito and don't
>> say anything.  Even to the point of showing some appreciation for home team
>> goals, which I'm not willing to do.
>> Does anyone regularly go in with home fans regularly these days, or just
>> not bother going?
>> 
>> Anyway looking forward to the match and hoping for a change of luck, as
>> last 3 visits have all been defeats!!  Wigan, Derby at the end of last
>> Season, and Swansea back in August.
>> 
>> End of musings.
>> 
>> KOT.
>> 
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