They have the goal line technology for the Lampard scenario (not VAR). That
was all that was required. The rest has become a hot mess.
Nick
On Tuesday, November 10, 2020, 01:51:27 PM EST, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
I’m not a fan of VAR. I always thought it a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
English commentariat got itself all excited after Lampard’s ‘goal’ against
Germany and demanded ‘something be done’. But across a season decisions evened
out, pre-VAR...now we’ve actually legislated ‘in’ interference.
They’re having to create a raft of secondary rules about when it is used and
when not.
A system that doesn’t penalise Everton’s keeper for that wild foul, but
disallows Bamford’s goal is not fit for purpose.
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> On 10 Nov 2020, at 18:42, Ed Morrish <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I feel like the footballing authorities have missed out on a crucial element
> of how video reviews work in cricket: umpire’s call. In cricket, you have to
> be 100% the umpire got it wrong, not 1% sure they weren’t right. If Bamford’s
> goal had been disallowed by the ref, the video would have upheld that; if it
> had been allowed, it would also have been upheld - it’s clearly a grey area,
> so let the ref do his job.
>
> (I also think there should be one review per team per half, which you lose if
> you challenge incorrectly.)
>
> Ed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 10 Nov 2020, at 17:46, Guy Thornton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Oh mighty King of Tonga, I agree with you and I did say I didn't blame the
>> ref who was 'only following
>> orders'.
>> Okay, he was following the latest interpretation of those who must be obeyed
>> on on deciding what is
>> and what is not offside with VAR. Whether it was Lineker and friends who
>> helped get the new
>> interpretation I don't know but something needs to be done to sort this out.
>> I'm not against VAR, a
>> contaire, but there's been some mighty silly decisions made. Forget who it
>> was but I remember a
>> player with his back to the one kicking the ball, arm by his side but the
>> ball hit it and wham, a foul.
>> On offside what happened to being in an offside potion but not interfering
>> with play?
>> guy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 Nov 2020 at 17:06, Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) wrote:
>>
>> I'm actually pro VAR, but just can't believe what a pigs ear the officials
>> make of applying it. Firstly they
>> don't have to use the lines. They are not used in Rugby replays to
>> determine forward passes.
>>
>> If they must use the lines then Offside is offside, whether by a foot or a
>> yard (Or a few millimetres).
>> The forward already gets the advantage that he can be level (if that is even
>> possible anymore).
>>
>> The idea that a player's arm can put them offside is patently ridiculous.
>> But it is not VAR's fault.
>> Part of the fault is with Lineker and his chums who moaned about handballs
>> being given when the ball
>> hit the arm.
>>
>> The unintended consequence of reducing the handball to the T Shirt line as
>> they call it was that a goal
>> can now be scored with that part of the arm which therefore now qualifies
>> for offside. Surely the arm
>> should ignored for offside decisions.
>>
>> It will be interesting to see what happens when a player uses the INSIDE of
>> the upper arm to
>> deliberately control the ball, or actually knock it into the net. My bet is
>> they will change the
>> interpretation again. Bamford and Leeds were very unlucky to be the first
>> to be caught by this, but the
>> law was correctly interpreted as it stands.
>>
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