Agreed completely. ________________________________ From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Ed Morrish <edmorr...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2020 2:41 AM To: guy.thorn...@inter.nl.net <guy.thorn...@inter.nl.net> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Subject: Re: [LU] VAR for offside
I feel like the footballing authorities have missed out on a crucial element of how video reviews work in cricket: umpire’s call. In cricket, you have to be 100% the umpire got it wrong, not 1% sure they weren’t right. If Bamford’s goal had been disallowed by the ref, the video would have upheld that; if it had been allowed, it would also have been upheld - it’s clearly a grey area, so let the ref do his job. (I also think there should be one review per team per half, which you lose if you challenge incorrectly.) Ed. Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Nov 2020, at 17:46, Guy Thornton <guy.thorn...@inter.nl.net> wrote: > > Oh mighty King of Tonga, I agree with you and I did say I didn't blame the > ref who was 'only following > orders'. > Okay, he was following the latest interpretation of those who must be obeyed > on on deciding what is > and what is not offside with VAR. Whether it was Lineker and friends who > helped get the new > interpretation I don't know but something needs to be done to sort this out. > I'm not against VAR, a > contaire, but there's been some mighty silly decisions made. Forget who it > was but I remember a > player with his back to the one kicking the ball, arm by his side but the > ball hit it and wham, a foul. > On offside what happened to being in an offside potion but not interfering > with play? > guy > > > > On 10 Nov 2020 at 17:06, Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) wrote: > > I'm actually pro VAR, but just can't believe what a pigs ear the officials > make of applying it. Firstly they > don't have to use the lines. They are not used in Rugby replays to determine > forward passes. > > If they must use the lines then Offside is offside, whether by a foot or a > yard (Or a few millimetres). > The forward already gets the advantage that he can be level (if that is even > possible anymore). > > The idea that a player's arm can put them offside is patently ridiculous. > But it is not VAR's fault. > Part of the fault is with Lineker and his chums who moaned about handballs > being given when the ball > hit the arm. > > The unintended consequence of reducing the handball to the T Shirt line as > they call it was that a goal > can now be scored with that part of the arm which therefore now qualifies for > offside. Surely the arm > should ignored for offside decisions. > > It will be interesting to see what happens when a player uses the INSIDE of > the upper arm to > deliberately control the ball, or actually knock it into the net. My bet is > they will change the > interpretation again. 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