Just felt it worth adding - as it became apparent how serious the injury was, I 
was v impressed by James Milner’s response as the ‘elder statesman’ - he went 
round all the younger players, giving them at pat or a hug and few words. 

Nick

> On 13 Sep 2021, at 09:44, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Yeah, it was a big disappointment…the first half was even enough, although I 
> thought we were only just hanging onto their coattails. But in the end 0-3 
> didn’t flatter them.
> 
> I’ve not seen any replays, so I don’t know about the sending off. Live, it 
> looked like a clean challenge, but then we saw lots of the folk around lad 
> running away holding their hands to their mouths, and so knew it was a bad 
> injury.
> 
> I think in time Bielsa might want to switch Raphinha inside into a no.10 
> role, behind Bamford, with Harrison and James on the wings. But there has to 
> be better coherence between the full backs and the wingers. Ayling has 
> started the season at quite a low level, he seems to be struggling…a lot of 
> unforced errors. Cooper can’t be any more than a squad player. Llorente is 
> class, I hope the injury is not serious. Firpo, I actually think had his best 
> game for us yesterday…whether that is good enough long term is another thing.
> 
> In midfield, I think Phillips was very good, but can’t do it alone. Dallas 
> was curiously absent - or the game passed him by. Oddly after an invisible 
> first half, Harrison was having a good 15 minutes when he was taken off.
> 
> Don’t know what to do with Rodrigo, he has played a lot in that advanced 
> midfield role and is not a success there. He has done ok as a centre forward, 
> but he is not the same kind of forward as Bamford, and Bielsa sees that 
> Bamford brings more to his preferred style of play.
> 
> We continue to be grateful for having Meslier in goal. He is a future star.
> 
> What we need are a couple of wins, to settle the nerves.
> 
> The atmosphere in the ground was bouncing.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 13 Sep 2021, at 08:40, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> My first PL game for donkeys and what a disappointment it was. Totally 
>> outclassed and outplayed for most of the game. If anything we showed some 
>> spirit second half with only 10 men and could / should have got 1 back. 
>> For me, there's a big question as to whether we can play with 2 wingers and 
>> Rodrigo against opposition like this. Phillips and Dallas didn't stand a 
>> chance and Liverpool took total control in midfield which meant Raphinha and 
>> Harrison never really had a kick. Rodrigo had an early chance which he could 
>> have done better with but apart from that he was totally ineffective as the 
>> no 10 and was hauled off for Roberts at half-time which is now becoming a 
>> regular change. We've seen what Rodrigo can do as a striker but as a 
>> midfielder he hasn't the legs to do what Hernandez did. 
>> It was a good atmosphere but all around me agreed that going in 1-0 down at 
>> half-time was a real result for us because it should have been more - a lot 
>> more. Time and time again the Liverpool midfielders and attackers seemed to 
>> have all the space in the world as they passed it around our box. 
>> Occassionally we would get a last ditch tackle in but we really struggled to 
>> contain them and struggled to get out of our half. 
>> Second half, Liverpool continued to control the park and were soon 2 up from 
>> a corner. The ball just seemed to be on the floor for an age until Fabinho, 
>> unmarked, poked it home. Poor defending again. Then Struijk got sent off and 
>> from the stands it looked like a great tackle and having seen it afterwards 
>> I still think Strujik is unlucky and was sent off for the injury not the 
>> tackle. The incident caused a bit of upset between the South stand and the 
>> away fans which then spiralled into a tit for tat sing song. "Always the 
>> victim, never your fault' to which the scousers replied "Yorkshire Police - 
>> murderers". A few scousers got really upset and ended up bein dragged away. 
>> We did show some heart with 10 men and Dan James came on and looked ok 
>> without really threatening. Liverpool scored a deserved 3rd late on and we 
>> all went home thinking that this is going to be a tough season and any 
>> thoughts of Europe and bettering our 9th place from last season need to be 
>> reassessed. Yes we've played 2 of the top 4 teams but I think it's clear 
>> that there's something missing and we are not playing with the fluidity and 
>> movement that we know we can. 
>> Bielsa's response to the first half debacle was to put Roberts on for 
>> Rodrigo. That was it. We were getting the run around in midfield but he just 
>> replaced like for like and carried on. He knows no different to his system 
>> and that is definitely a limitation. There was an argument to put Klich and 
>> Shack in a 4 man midfield with Raph on his own up front. At least we would 
>> have competed and seen some of the ball. We definitely needed another body 
>> in the middle. 
>> Scores:
>> 
>> Meslier - 7. Made some great saves to keep the score down. It could have 
>> been far worse. 
>> Ayling - 3. I thought he was really poor and if you look at his performances 
>> this season I think he's not started well. He did have our best chance first 
>> half but couldn't decide whether to volley or head it and I think it just 
>> ended up cannoning off him into the South Stand
>> Cooper - 3. Let's face facts, he's not up to the job and against the better 
>> team this is really obvious. He was booked early on when he was turned and 
>> just pulled his man back and from then on he really struggled.
>> Llorente - 4. Llorente also struggled it has to be said and then got 
>> injured. The lad has been unfortunate with injuries and looks like he might 
>> be out for a few weeks now. 
>> Firpo - 4. The general opinion on the P2 back was that Firpo isn't up to it. 
>> He's no Allioski going forward, in fact he rarely does get forward and that 
>> means Harrison sees little of the ball. His defending is also suspect. He 
>> did manage a few last dith challenges against Salah but he looks really 
>> dodgy. 
>> Dallas - 4. His worst game for a long time and that was mainly because he 
>> didn't see much of the ball and was just chasing shadows most of the 
>> afternoon. We keep buying wingers but surely central midfield is where we 
>> are really light for options.  
>> Phillips - 7. I thought he was our best player. Never gave up, tackled well 
>> and got around the park. He can't do it on his own though 
>> Harrison - 4. Ineffective 
>> Raphinha - 4. Ineffective 
>> Bamford - 3. Ineffective - had one speculative effort well saved but just 
>> didn't get in the game at all. 
>> Rodrigo - 2. Worrying performances from our record signing. 
>> Subs:
>> Strujik - unlucky 
>> Roberts - one or two moments but didn't really influence the game. Maybe his 
>> running and ability to cover more ground than Rod was a factor in our 
>> improvement 2nd half. 
>> Newcastle will be another test. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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