It's true that "our subs made us worse," but I think it's equally true that Man 
U's subs made them better (in each game), or at least relatively better than us 
in the latter stages of each game. This is simply down to the financial 
disparity between the two clubs, which is compounded by our injuries. Robles, 
Kristensen and Aaronson aside, our bench was just kids. I saw some supporters 
criticizing Skubala for taking Bamford and Harrison off, but I presume he did 
that because he knew they were knackered (coaches these days having so much 
data at their fingertips telling them exactly how many thousand meters each 
player can run before his levels drop). The simple fact is that not only did we 
have nobody on the bench to change things, we didn't even have players on the 
bench who could do the same things at the same level as the players we took 
off. That's why in a game like this, when the opposition will use their wallet 
to bludgeon us late in the game, we need to have given ourselves a cushion when 
it's first XI vs first XI. For me, the game turned on Summerville's miss in the 
first five minutes. Put that away and we might at least have gained a point.
Cheers!
Sean


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From: Simon McNally via Leedslist <[email protected]>
To: Greg Adams <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
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Sent: Mon, Feb 13, 2023 6:10 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Match v " team of weirdos "

I think he has done well in these two games . We definitely have more structure 
and shape and certainly haven’t given up as many big chances after losing the 
ball like we did under Marsch.
On the other hand, we failed to cope when the scum changed tactics and our subs 
made us worse. This was all too familiar under Marsch.
My worry would be that he lacks the experience and know how to go up against 
other managers in the key games we’ve got coming up.
The bloke that was sacked at Ajax though looks a nightmare. Won the league at 
Club Brugge, but they always win the Belgian league. Think one team pub league 
like Scotland and Austria. He managed to alienate the players and fans at Ajax 
and led them to their worst start to a season in years. He sounds like another 
Marsch, all excuses and talk about how he’s pleased with the progress etc.
So if it’s a choice between him and Skoobs, I’d keep Skoobs.
Hopefully though, the geniuses running the club have got someone better lined 
up.
On recent track record though I’m not confident!
Marsch should have gone after the Fulham game but them waiting for so long has 
made it harder to recruit a new manager and cost us points.

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From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of Greg Adams 
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2023 11:00:54 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LU] Match v " team of weirdos "

Just to be clear - I was not implying that Dave or anyone on the list is
writing Skoobs off.  I am just curious to know whether we think he has
done enough already to justify waiting a bit longer to get someone or
rushing to get anyone with first team experience.


On 13 Feb 2023 12:50, Greg Adams wrote:
>
> /On 13 Feb 2023 12:23, nattan--- via Leedslist wrote:/
>
> /Let's get the new manager in quickly and hope he us the right man,
> this team could be decent /
>
>
> Are we writing off Skoobs already? I thought the last two games showed
> immense improvement in tactics, style and shape when defending.  For
> me the key thing to get right now is the right man for the job.  Get
> the wrong guy, and it's back to the drawing board.  This guy who Ajax
> fired a couple of weeks ago looks like a disaster waiting to happen
> judging from the comments I read from Ajax fans / dutch supporters. I
> would be happy to go with Skoobs for a while if it means waiting for
> the best guy for us.
>
>
>
>> As the chant went " follow follow follow, you're a team of f@cking
>> weirdos, Ronaldo's a rapist, greenwoods a rapist and Scholes just
>> loves to suck toes"Made me laugh even if none of them actually play.
>> Very low key police presence at Piccadilly early on, and only a
>> handful of fans on our train, met by a handful of coppers at Leeds.
>> Then massed ranks of police at the barrier and even stranger ( I
>> wondered for a second if the pub had been given to them) 5 vans and
>> 15 or so police outside the west Ridings.  This was the scum
>> game.Team news was as expected but the bench showed how we are
>> suffering yet again with injuries as Gyabi, Monteiro, Joseph and
>> Mullen all made the bench. Not much there if we needed a boost.
>> At the bus queue my lad got into it with some knob ( unfortunately
>> not the only one as it turned out) who sang the runway song, then
>> after my lads comment, tried to double and triple down with version
>> of Daisy daisy and the laughing policeman ( not putting words on
>> here) - no one joined in as we berated him , his " excuse" one of
>> them was buried in a cemetery near him and it got attention. What a
>> dick. He later remembered it was David Pegg ( buried in Doncaster)
>> Inside the ground it was the right type of hostility near us, the new
>> song as above , we all hate scum etc, with lots of backing for us "
>> Billy bremner's barmy army" - great stuff. The cheer when Adams
>> thundered into the first tackle leaving their player on the deck was
>> brilliant
>> We really got at them and Summerville missed an easy chance early on,
>> and he had another before half time in a half of few chances,
>> Meslier had to save with his feet as s woeful pass from the mainly
>> excellent Wober let in that hateful Fernandes what a horrible player
>> he is whining moaning and trying to referee it
>> Second half ( till last 10) was even  better as we created lots of
>> half chances, summerville had a save, Harrison had a flick just wide,
>> koch had a header blocked,Ayling came closest with a shot that
>> ricocheted through a scum players legs and went wide, he followed it
>> up with a great overhead kick that unfortunately went straight to the
>> keeper.  We pressed and pressed but it was not to be. At the other
>> end their first attack led to them hitting the bar, then on 80
>> minutes it all fell, apart. We had made changes Harrison and Bamford
>> off for Rutter and aaranson and it didn't work and tiredness crept
>> in. We left Rashford clear in the box and a good cross found him 0-1
>> , minutes later their sub zoomed past Koch and his shot sneaked in.
>> Game over. It  could have been worse as they put it in twice more but
>> both offside. So a 2 - 0 defeat in a game we could have won
>> The now familiar comment after the game  " play like this and we
>> will be all right"Trouble is , so far we have only played like that v
>> good teams  and have not a lot to show for it , defeats by Arsenal,
>> Spurs,  scum ( ok win  v Chelsea and liverpool).We need to play like
>> that v poor teams starting with the next two and we need to score
>> when on top
>> All the players gave their all and before Wednesday,  a point and
>> only minus 2 in the goals column may have been acceptable but not
>> when  2 up in the first game and the better team for 80 minutes of
>> the second.
>> We need to get points , at least 4 in the next 2, and turn things
>> around.  This week has given us more hope but not much more than
>> that. Summerville and Gnonto are brilliant to watch and Adams and big
>> boy McKinney give us a strong base in midfield and Wober has improved
>> us at the back, so it is not a lost cause by any means,.
>>  Finally a well done to Firpo best game yet ( albeit a low bar) he
>> was ok defensively and offered more than Struijk going forward
>> Let's get the new manager in quickly and hope he us the right man,
>> this team could be decent
>> Dave
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