To play devils advocate........ during that 1st 30 mins Meslier didn't have
a save to make & we actually had the best chances. (Ok chance.) The same
was true in the 1st 30 mins v Arse. In both cases we then lost really
unfortunate goals featuring pretty poor refereeing.......and after that we
were toast. But if those 2 refs had done their jobs and we'd made it to ht
at 0 0 or even 1 0 up........

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023, 18:40 Nicholas Armit via Leedslist, <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Well it doesn't get much worse than that. Forget it was liverpool, we
> were playing a team in 8th place who had scored ZERO , NIL , NOT ONE  goals
> away from home v bottom half teams this season.  Yet our plan was to sit
> back and just let them have the ball, madness. Ok it sort of worked for 30
> minutes but the general feeling was one mistake would cost us the game , we
> did not realise the mistake would be the referees, and we all knew this
> team could not go 90minutes without making lots of mistakes
>
> This is it exactly. I was just waiting for the first goal to go in, there
> was no way we were going to give Liverpool that much of the ball, defend
> that deep and not concede. And once the first one went in was clear which
> way this was going. Our main "weapons" are attacking players, why not play
> to our strengths?
> Nick
>     On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 05:49:18 AM EDT, nattan--- via Leedslist
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Well it doesn't get much worse than that. Forget it was liverpool, we
> were playing a team in 8th place who had scored ZERO , NIL , NOT ONE  goals
> away from home v bottom half teams this season.  Yet our plan was to sit
> back and just let them have the ball, madness. Ok it sort of worked for 30
> minutes but the general feeling was one mistake would cost us the game , we
> did not realise the mistake would be the referees, and we all knew this
> team could not go 90minutes without making lots of mistakes
> The first goal, always going to be crucial was a farce, I have heard that
> the handball was too far away from the actual goal for VAR to bother . WTF
> he hand balls it , and 3 passes later it is our net - absolutely dreadful
> decision
> Having said that it is like the old joke where someone is moaning 2 of
> their goals were offside in a 12-0 defeat.
> Once we went behind we had no clue,  our only  bit of joy was when
> Sinisterra ro bed their defender and finished with style. Game on we
> thought, but 2 minutes later it was game off. From that moment on it was
> just a case of how many.
> We have messed up our GD stats in 3 games with minus 12 ( arse palace and
> last night)
> Bit like the players I cant be bothered with the rest of the game other
> than Summerville came on and looked lively, Forshaw came on and looked
> lost  , Rutter came on and looked like he had never seen a football
> Highlight of the evening 2 gobby scouse birds, who thought the whole
> carriage wanted to listen to their inane filming of themselves arrived in
> Manchester to find their only train home at 12.30am was cancelled- only
> time i smiled all night
> So desperate times indeed,  somehow,  from somewhere we need at least 5
> pts from our next 3 games or we are down I reckon
> The fun times under Bielsa feel a long time ago Dave
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