Dear Friend,

Yesterday we delivered to NSW prisoners, care of  Minister Debus at
Parliament House, about twenty computers and left them in the courtyard
when he didn't hurry down to sign for them.

Here is an update on the government response and why we are in it
to win it. After is the full text of the minister and department's
replies.

COMPUTERS FOR PRISONERS: WHY THEY ARE AN ISSUE

We have presented prisoners' needs  for computers carefully and
consistently over a long time.  Initially we identified the chance for an
industry with recycling and repairing old computers, and returning them to
the community. Then we realised that prisoners themselves were more
urgently in need. Over 85% of prisoners surveyed in the largest men and
women's jails said they would be an important asset to them.

The responses from the community have been totally positive. Politicians
of all sides recognised the sanctity of legal defence, education and skill
development.

The prison authorities have been entirely negative. We proposed the
original repair project in 6/98 and never received an answer, although the
Department said it would be put to their IT area. Their two
representatives said that computers had been abused in the past - an
incident of pornography and another where personal data about officers had
been written down.

The Commissioner finally answered on 29/6/99 on behalf of the Minister, in
one sentence, after much pressure, saying: "it is departmental policy that
inmates housed in maximum security centres are not permitted access to
computers in common areas or their individual cells."

NO JUSTIFICATION OFFERED AND NONE POSSIBLE!

Over the past few weeks the number of computers donated from the community
has increased enormously. The Shadow Minister Brad Hazzard and many of the
crossbenchers have demanded an explanation of Minister Debus.

Finally we received his statement and that of the Commissioner. They offer
nothing, are totally defensive and are based on misinformation.

The COMMISSIONER SAID (28/9) that:
* the computers that were already inside three of the jails and
functioning, were being returned as they were unauthorised, were second
hand, may be incompatible technically and may have software problems. But
he would take money to purchase computers!

The MINISTER SAID (30/9) that:
* computers were already in classrooms and remand centres have law reports
and CD ROMs. (but available for only an hour a week! Library open for only
100 days in the MRRC last year.)
*  laptops could be bought for minimum security prisoners' cells (why is
security rating an issue for use in cells? What about legal needs for
remands? What if you've no money?)
* second hand computers could carry drugs and contraband. But the
department itself  might have some excess ones available (fine, but why
haven't they been offered before and other government departments too? We
don't believe in their goodwill there or elsewhere. Their desperate
position of actually trying to return donated computers already in and
functioning shows what they really intend.)

THE TRUTH
A prisoner with a TV is passive and occupied.

But a computer is a tool which allows a prisoner freedom to function and
develop irrespective of  physical restrictions. To present as a human
being and a citizen in society, not reduced to an animal in a cage with a
number.

NO WONDER DISCREDITED SENIOR ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER
RON WOODHAM AND HIS HENCHMEN ARE FIGHTING THIS
TOOTH AND NAIL.


FULL TEXT MINISTER DEBUS'  LETTER

MINISTER FOR CORRECTIVE SERVICES letterhead

Ms Kilty O'Gorman
Justice Action

Dear Ms O'Gorman

I write to acknowledge your faxes of 14 and 21 September 1999, concerning
the availability of computers in correctional centres.

As you are aware from previous correspondence on this issue, all
correctional centres at present have classrooms and provide courses which
assist inmates to develop computer skills.

Inmates in minimum security facilities can purchase and retain in their
cells laptop computers provided that they are undertaking approved
tertiary studies.

All remand centres have hard copy printed case law reference libraries
which can be accessed by inmates.

In the MRRC inmates have access to both hard copy statutes and also to
electronic CD rom versions of this material. Library staff also assist
inmates to undertake legal research, provide training on the equipment and
will also undertake some research on their behalf.

The commissioner and I are both keenly aware of the importance of computer
literacy for inmates and the need of remand inmates in particular to have
access to research materials. However, the provision of second hand
computers from your organisation is not the solution to these problems.

The Department of Corrective Services has recently undertaken a number of
significant upgrades in 1999 which has resulted in a number of computers
becoming surplus to requirements. The Department's Information Technology
section will establish the usefulness of these computers after removing
all data contained on the machines.It is anticipated that some of these
surplus computers may be provided for the use of inmates in correctional
centres.

The process of increasing the number of computers available for inmates
will be done in a staged manner rather than on the basis of ad hoc
donations.

In meetings with senior operational and security staff of the department
as long ago as December 1998, you were advised that the entry of second
hand computers you wished to donate would not be permitted on security
grounds. You have been similarly advised in correspondence from my office
and from the commissioner.

The key security considerations are as follows:

a) General policy prohibiting entry of electrical goods

It has been departmental policy since the mid 1980s not to permit the
entry of electrical equipment to correctional centres, other than
equipment supplied through approved contractors.

This decision was taken following the discovery of drugs and other
contraband - such as syringes or weapons - concealed in the back of
televisions which had been left by visitors for the use of inmates.

Taking apart electrical items to search them for contraband is likely to
damage them; the Department is not prepared to accept responsibility for
the repair or replacement of electrical items damaged during searches.

b)  Particular concerns about security concerns presented by computers

The Commissioner of Corrective Services, Dr Keliher, is himself a PhD in
Information Technology. He has advised me that modern computers which can
have modems integrated into motherboards, present particular security
risks.

Dr Keliher has advised me that he has no desire to have inmate education
areas full of second hand computers with incompatible technical
requirements, possibly with pornagraphic or other undesirable programs
loaded onto hard drives, possibly with viruses which will infect existing
computers.

The Department is more readily able to ensure that its own surplus
machines meet technical and security requirements, as well as millenium
bug compliance, than miscellaneous machines from another organisation.

c)  Claims about the availability of computers in the Northern Territory.

You have recently claimed that the Northern Territory have recently
launched "the first prisoners' web site" which allows "outsiders to
maintain contact with prisoners".

Northern Territory Correctional authorities advise that your claims are
incorrect. The fact is that the web site displays arta and crafts made by
inmates in addition to providing information about the types of programs
available in their correctional centrs.
The web site has an E mail provision whereby people wishing to make any
comments about the site, can do so. The E mail is sent to the Department's
head office where all the comments are noted and may be forwarded to
inmates if appropriate. The E mail facility is not used for personal
messages and in no way replaces mail. Inmates in the Northern Territory
have access to computers only for educational purposes, all personal
correspondence must be hand written and no inmates have access to the
internet.

In summary, I reiterate that the Department remains keen to work to
provide inmates with improved educational and vocational resources. Over
the period of this government, education expenditure has increased from
$6.4mil in 1994/1995 to $9.05mil in 1998/1999, and the Department will
seek to upgrade our educational and computer facilities wherever possible.
However, as I have said, the donation of this material from your
organisation is not the solution.

I suggest that there are many community based and religious organisations,
who do not have the security and technical concerns of the Department -
such as those providing post release accommodation for former inmates, or
assistance for offenders on probation - who may welcome the equipment you
have collected.

I hope this information is of assistance to you. Given the comprehensive
nature of the information provided, I see no utility in meeting to discuss
this issue or, indeed, in future correspondence on the matter.

Yours sincerely


Bob Debus
30.9.99


FULL TEXT COMMISSIONER KELIHER REPLY

DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIVE SERVICES letterhead
ref: RML: CS99/0702RHG
Ms Kilty O'Gorman
Justice Action
BROADWAY

Dear Ms O'Gorman

The Minister for Corrective Services, the Hon Bob Debus, asked me to reply
to your letter concerning the decision to remove computers from the
Industrial Training Centre, Long Bay Correctional Complex, which were
delivered by your organisation on 13 September 1999.
I also refer to your facsimile of 21 September 1999 referring to the same
matter.

The delivery of these computers was unauthorised and was contrary to the
intent of Section 9.2.10 of the Inmate Private Property Policy. As you
should be aware the only items which may be left for inmates are
underwear, socks, photographs and legal papers.

As you have been advised on previous occasions the supply of second hand
computers by Justice Action would not be permitted. Additionally I have no
desire to have inmate education areas filled with second hand computers
with incompatible technical requirements and the inability to cope with
modern software specifications.

I do not have any intention of varying the present departmental policy
applying to the provision of computers to inmates. Of course, if any
external agency wishes to donate money to the department to purchase
computers for use by inmates in appropriate areas, the department will
arrange the purchase and installation of such equipment.

Yours sincerely

LEO KELIHER
Commissioner
28 September 1999


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