Hey Joe!Neat ideas. I cant wait to see your mock-up. By the way? have you seen these web sites?http://bicitywoodturners.com/newsletters/articles/Rose_Engine.pdf The modern rose.
https://teknatool.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/19000076497-nova-ornamental-turner Nova OT. http://ornamentalturners.com/ OT international. Gallery is Awesome! Perhaps the forums could also help? Have a good night. C.A.G. On Monday, December 10, 2018, 1:49:05 PM EST, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: okay guys, here we go!... I was contacted and asked if I could better explain/show what is being considered here... so I did a very quick, hand sketch, of a side/end view of a typical Legacy machine... no need to critique the quality of the drawing, I know it stinks... but I am at a disadvantage as my machine is not in my shop, but at another location... so better measurements and perspectives were not possible... and I did work with an approximate scale in mind... in the sketch you can see the wave, pattern wheel positioned at the front of the machine, and attached to the Legacy router carriage... no brackets shown for that, as that would be pretty straight forward... there might be about 16 to 20 wheels mounted together, forming a cluster, as you most often see on a rose engine lathe... this cluster might be in a range of 6" to 8" wide, not counting the hex drive hubs on either side ... the cluster would slide along the hex rod running the length of the bed, going left and right... on the end of the hex rod would be a chain sprocket, looped by chain to another sprocket, attached to the end of the Legacy lead screw... with that we would now have the pattern wheels traversing left and right, and rotating as well... then there would be a "rub" bearing mounted to the sliding router assembly, with a spring tensioner... so as the rub bearing is pushed against the wave wheel, the router will have a "pump" action, as on an engine lathe... imagine being able to do a spiral, with pump action cuts, along a 60" spindle... all timed perfectly together, so multiple, indexed cuts would be easily possible... I would point out that I am not sure how well this would all work, without all axis' being on linear, ball bearings... the Legacy black, top hats could possibly have too much resistance to make this mod workable... or, some fine tuning of the top hats would need to be done... well, just an update... I am considering doing a physical, non-functioning mock-up in wood to see how everything lays out... it's quick and easy and might point out some problems that are just not visible at this stage... thanks for the read... Joe On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 10:06:12 AM UTC-5, joe biunno wrote: Hey Curt!... thanks for the reference, and that is the company I mentioned in the previous post... I had exchanged several emails with the owner of the company... nice person, answered all of my questions and sometimes that does not happen when dealing with other companies... but it's all good... like I mentioned, his pricing seems very reasonable... but the question remains, is the diameter of his rosettes correct for the kind of work that is being considered here on the Legacy... on a typical Legacy, you might be working on a piece that is most likely a max of 8" in diameter, especially if you are cutting from the side, which is the preferred position of cut, in my opinion... so that is a circumference of 24" +/-... I might anticipate possibly wanting to do 48, 1/2" cuts into that circumference, from an ornamental standpoint... and also, possibly, 96, 1/4" cuts... problem being, 96 "flats" on a 5 1/4' diameter rosette wheel works out to be approximately a 3/16" flat on the wheel... that is too small a flat to rub against, again, in my opinion... now, maybe a 1/4" cut into a workpiece is not to be expected as well... what is needed here is a conclusion as to what a proper balance is... remembering that we cannot expect the same type of repeats that a traditional rose engine lathe can do...so, an 8" dia. rosette wheel would have 1/4" flats to achieve 96 cuts, 1/2" flats for 48 cuts... I am thinking a 6" diameter wheel, maximum of 48 flats on the wheels edge, which would yield a 3/8" cut(+/-) on an 8" diameter workpiece, would be a good diameter to provide a good range over all diameters of work... and of course, you would work your way down from there, 36, 24 12, etc., etc.... then comes the scallops(inwards and outwards), and other patterns that you would want/need... I spoke to Wade(the owner of the company) and he can make the wheels in a larger diameter... or, you can make the wheels yourself, it's not that difficult to do... anyway, once the wheel diameter can be locked in, the design of the mod can continue... to those that are interested and reading these long posts, thanks... comments and suggestions are always welcome and needed!... Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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