So then what are Ridings?

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Bill Bienia <[email protected]> wrote:
> Even a 3 or 4 level place location option per county wouldn't work. In 
> Canada, Ontario and much of the rest of eastern Canada uses a 4 level place 
> locations (city/town/village/township, county/district/municipality, 
> province, country), while the prairie provinces and BC use a 3 level place 
> location (city/town/village/municipal district, province, county). (I'm not 
> sure how the territories are arranged.) Similar to what Ron Ferguson noted in 
> his example for England, Ontario (and some other eastern provinces) could 
> really be divided into 5 levels, i.e. city/town/village, township, 
> county/district/municipality, province, country. For Canada, they would have 
> to provide the 3 or 4 location option on a province by province basis.
>
> I know of one geo-database that has encoded all of Canada with the 3-place 
> location (omitting counties), making it essentially useless for eastern 
> Canada, or at least Ontario. In Ontario, there are towns, townships and 
> counties all with the same name, or more commonly townships and counties with 
> the same name, which are not within the same jurisdiction. As a result, if 
> only one of the levels is specified, that geo-database gets it wrong most 
> times.
>
> Bill
> Hillsburgh, Ontario, Canada
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Goodwin [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:42 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> I would prefer an option in Legacy that would allow users to use 3 or 4 place 
> locations depending on the country they are entering information on.
>
> I understand that you prefer and only use 3 place locations, so how would you 
> handle the United States locations? I have relatives in Canada, England, 
> Australia as well as the United States and well 3 place locations fit most 
> countries I have some locations within several States within the USA where 
> the same town name appears more that once within the same State and the only 
> way to identify the correct location is by using the County identifier.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Ron
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March 8, 2010 18:55
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events
>
> Carol,
>
> It is not a "standard location format" if you are British, or of many, many 
> other nationalities. We abandoned standardisation before it was invented, on 
> the basis that is does not work, will not work, and conflicts with our 
> freedom of expression.
>
> My location at one time was "Glossop, Derbyshire, England". The problem is, 
> as you can see, there aint 4 fields, nor is there anywhere where I can stick 
> a comma (not that I would, I hate them, except when used correctly in 
> English). I could also go to the other extreme, should you so wish, where the 
> very old  (like before my time) location of the place where I lived was 
> "Winton, Barton upon Irwell, Eccles, Hundred of Salford, Lancashire, 
> England", where Winton is a Hamlet, Barton upon Irwell: a Township, Eccles:
> a Parish, Hundred of Salford: the Hundred, Lancashire: the County and
> England: Country.
>
> Please bare in mind that some countries had locations nearly 2000 years ago, 
> and most of ours were included in the Doomsday Book cir. 1086. You may care 
> to visit my blog at http://bit.ly/8VDqTc, which was reprinted by World Vital 
> Records btw. for more details.
>
> I also note that in the new transcriptions for their new database Family 
> Search are now starting use use correct English locations (more or less).
> There's hope yet!
>
> Ron Ferguson
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