Scott, I agree. It is a citation nightmare. I have subscribed to Ancestry since 2002 and also used Legacy Family Tree since 2002, long before I ever heard of Evidence Explained or the Legacy SourceWriter, but, I was always annoyed at the way Ancestry.com is put in the first element of the source citations they provide. I consider Ancestry.com as a Repository. I certainly give credit for their indexing, which is frequently flawed, but I definitely distinguish between indexes and digital images. As you have shown, it is definitely challenging to try to go from Ancestry.com citations to the Legacy 7 source writer templates. I am tending to use the Basic format for citations.
It also seems impossible to go from Legacy source writer template produced citations and put them in a Family Tree on Ancestry. Until recently, I mostly avoided the member trees on Ancestry. Currently I am building a small family tree on Ancestry, by entering names and dates that I already have recorded in Legacy for each individuals, and then within my Ancdestry tree, I click to have Ancestry search for historical sources, and then save the Ancestry source citation to the individual in the tree with a click. My plan is to export the tree from Ancestry and open it in Legacy and then compare with my original file, to see how this works. Pauline Scott Hall wrote: > I have finally decided to start my subcription to Ancestry.com, but > have hit a bit of a barrier out of the gate--my old friend, citations. > > Ancestry is very good at telling you exactly what the citation should > be, but matching that to Evidence Explained--or the Source Writer > template--seems a bit tricky at times. I'm working with the Federal > census mortality schedules now. > > It appears that the mortality schedules on Ancestry come from a > variety of NARA microfilms, depending on which state the information > is coming from. It appears, unlike the Federal censuses for which > each year cites a single microfilm reference (e.g. the 1860 census > refers to M653), the "source of the source" here changes depending on > the state. But I see no Legacy SourceWriter template. > > I also note that the Ancestry.com citation doesn't seem to match > Mills, or Legacy. Take the 1860 population schedule. Legacy, > modeling Mills, says the citation should look like this: > > 1860 U.S. census, Monroe County, New York population schedule; digital > images, *Ancestry.com* (http://www.ancestry.com); citing National > Archives and Records Administration microfilm M653. > > But Ancestry says: > > Ancestry.com. *1860 United States Federal Census* [database on-line]. > Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced > by FamilySearch. Original data: 1860 U.S. census, population > schedule. NARA microfilm publication M653, 1,438 rolls. Washington, > D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d. > > Citation junkies who use Ancestry, how do you reconcile this in your > mind? Just two different systems? And, most importantly, how do you > cite nonpopulation schedules given the absence of a template in > Legacy? For example, I'm looking at an image of the 1860 Mortality > Schedule for Lycoming County, PA. Ancestry lists: > > Citation #1: > Ancestry.com. *U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1885* > [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., > 2010. A portion of this collection was indexed by Ancestry World > Archives Project contributors. > > Original data citations: > General: > United States. *Federal Mortality Census Schedules, 1850-1880 > (formerly in the custody of the Daughters of the American Revolution), > and Related Indexes, 1850-1880.* T655, 30 rolls. National Archives and > Records Administration, Washington D.C. > > For PA, it then lists: > United States. *Non-Population Census Schedules for Pennsylvania, > 1850-1880: Mortality*. M1838, 11 rolls. National Archives and Records > Administration, Washington D.C. > > The particular record I'm looking at appears to have come from roll > M1838, so I suppose that is the citation I should use. I'm not sure > when the generic U.S. citation would apply? Perhaps some records are > from T655 and others from M1838. > > I *think* the right citation (Mills style) is: > 1860 U.S. census, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania mortality schedule; > digital images, *Ancestry.com* (http://www.ancestry.com); citing > National Archives and Records Administration microfilm M1838. > > > What do you think? And, again, most importantly how do you cite this > in Legacy? Use the census template and overrride it? Something else? > > Thanks!! > > > Scott > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
