You said " You don't hear people whining about the trees on Ancestry.com not being accurate or documented" the rease is this is not the place for that. Any long time good researcher has to know that "incorrect information" is taken from one tree and added to others multiple trees, a lot are just beginning and they assume the information is correct. I'm looking forward to checking out this new avenue of information, but as others have stated, we need to realize the submitters are humans like us with varying degrees of knowledge and skills. When I first heard what Legacy was doing, I was not pleased, I'm not a part of LDS, my priority would have been changes in "Web Page Creation", but after thinking about it, it's just another area that we might be able to find a puzzle piece to our family history after carefully checking out the information. In the past I've added under Research, information others have submitted with their contact or tree information, so that it might give me something to look for in the future and I will probably do the same on some of this new LDS information. I've not had the chance to really do much with the new update 7.5, but after reading about some of the changes, I was eager to download it and look forward to use it, I think the mapping and search changes are going to be great. Syble
--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Kathy Meyer <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kathy Meyer <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New family search capabilities To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:48 AM Thanks Deb. I would have to agree with everything you said; even if we only gave the most basic of sourcing information (as you said family bible, census, etc.) that would help evaluate the accuracy of the data when there are different data entries to choose from. Legacy does not presently have an option to send the sourcing information to NFS along with the data that we might share with NFS; perhaps that will come later. I wish people would try to understand where the information in ancestral file came from; it was user submitted and definitely prone to error but not because the people didn't care if it was accurate; on the contrary, most LDS submitters cared very deeply and spent much time, travel and money researching their ancestors with the limited resources that were available. These records have not been added to for many years. Any family tree information that you get from anyone and from any database needs to be checked for errors. There are always a certain small percentage of people who really don't care how accurate it is; all they care about is the numbers so they can say "I have 50,000 people in my tree" or whatever. But that is a very tiny minority. Why can't people focus on the good things instead of the problems? You don't hear people whining about the trees on Ancestry.com not being accurate or documented and I can tell you I have had many more difficulties with that; people inserting my family into their tree and then 'building on it' with people they 'assume' fit in; so like the people complaining about Ancestral File and the like, I know that what they have done is inaccurate because I am in a position to know more about that family. All of the information that was on family search will be in the New Family Search but will be linked as families when that information exists in the extracted records or when members have submitted the information or corrected the information so that they link together. Someone said they didn't think the IGI information would be in there but all the IGI is is member submitted data and extracted data anyway. NFS is just a new way to present the information and work with it; bringing the technology up to date! Also someone thought NFS was a wiki; the wiki is available now thru www.familysearch.org and it is awesome but is NOT New Family Search; it is its own entity. The LDS church has been working on bringing several areas of the original offerings to us in a better way with the new technology that's available. Kathy On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Deb <[email protected]> wrote: Kathy.. I'd like to see somewhere between all and none...Many years ago, I found someone had entered my family's information in Family Search.. (actually, the old Ancestral File)... There was some questionable information (turned out that she had listed a spouse by his "nickname" (like Billy) but his actual name was in no way related to the nickname (he was not a Bill or William). The submitter moved a bit, and as you know, the Ancestral File only gave the address at time of submission. By the time I got the contact information and tried to contact the submitter, she had passed away, and the information could have been lost forever except that I did find a granddaughter taking over the work (took 4 more years and a correction to data that she had). I don't want to see every move the family made, or each census deduction...., but I would like to know that the birth, death and marriage info came from .... A family bible, Government Vital Records, cemetery markers, newspaper or "preserved records" (microfilm, online database etc) to enable me to better determine that John B. Smith that you have from Georgia is the same as the John B. Smith I have living in Alabama. I would love to be able to make contact with you to share more data and possibly photographs, memorabilia or stories of the family. But more importantly, I want my information online to be as ACCURATE as possible. (I have too many people telling me that the LDS just don't care about their data.. And that it's all wrong..) Just my 2 cents worth.. Deb -------Original Message------- From: Kathy Meyer Date: 1/18/2011 6:24:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LegacyUG] New family search capabilities I am sending this to the Family Search group and the regular users group because I have been seeing FS issues being discussed on the UG too. In fact, maybe some of you don't realize there is a FS group you can sign up for that is specific to that. My question: I'm seeing a lot of people adding all sorts of information from their research into NFS, adding sourcing information etc. I have only added fairly basic information there, vital statistics, places, relationships, that sort of thing. Should we be adding additional items of research like census & directory entries? will & probate information? Residence? I consider these to be supporting documents or information but I've seen where others are adding all of their 'events' which would/could include these sort of items. LFS does allow us to move all of that information with a 'click'. I understand that when we find someone on there, we'd like to know as much about them as possible; on the other hand, I think having the basic information there and then being able to contact us for more information would be sufficient and even preferable. This is something we will all have to decide as we go through this process with LFS/NFS, so I'd appreciate your thoughts. Kathy -- Kathy Meyer "To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things you have never before done." --Richard G. Scott, "Finding the Way Back," Ensign, May 1990, 74 Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ Albert Einstein Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Kathy Meyer "To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things you have never before done." --Richard G. 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