Hi there.  Thanks for your comments.  I am still developing our system and 
trying to figure things out as well.  I understand your need to be able to find 
your electronic files and keep them organized.

I guess where my system would differ from yours is that I set up considerably 
less different sources and place most of the details specific to the person in 
the source detail for the person, not in the master source record.  I would 
consider naming a document for retrieval a different thing from naming a master 
source record.  For example, I use a master source such as OBITUARY- Michigan 
and place all my Michigan obituaries under that one source.  If I were to end 
up with too many, then I would consider breaking down by county, city, etc.  
But the complete details are provided and entered in the person's record anyway.

Another example, I would not create a separate source record at the county 
level for the United States Federal Census, as someone else on the list does 
because I believe too many sources become unweildy and cumbersome.  But I would 
include all the necessary detail in the source detail, which is a part of the 
person's record and not the source itself.  But Legacy allows both appraches.  
Thanks for listening.  ...Jerry

Alan Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

>Jerry,
>
>Please forgive me as I am a little confused by your comment.  If I
>understand your comment correctly let me go into some detail....
>
>This naming scheme is for file names of scanned source documents like
>birth certificates, marriage documents, obituaries, diplomas and school
>related documents etc where the focus of the source is 1 or 2 people.
>So I find an obituary and i make it a PDF and name it:
>
>OBIT-Doe_John_B-1234-a.pdf
>
>I would not make multiple copies of the file with different names if multiple 
>people were listed in the source.  In fact my note at the end indicate I am 
>still trying to find a solution to that problem of a source that covers many 
>people.
>
>Also note based on past posts to the list and I am not trying to link every 
>source to every person.  I wanted a system so that I could find sources later 
>if I was browsing to them in my file system not just link to them in Legacy.  
>In the old days of paper files it was almost easier than with electronic files.
>
>If you have another naming scheme for sources that is logical and helps
>you keep them organized on your computer  for future needs, sharing and
>later retrieval i would love to see it.   I am not stuck on my format
>yet as I am still experimenting.
>
>If I did not understand your idea or you have additional thoughts please
>feel free to share.
>
>thanks for the comment.
>
>
>
>On 7/21/2011 6:39 PM, Jerry wrote:
>> Hi Alan.  Your naming scheme is interesting.  However, if I am understanding 
>> correctly, wouldn't you use thousands of separate sources if you used each 
>> person's name in your source?  Just wondering what I am missing since the 
>> source is already linked to the person without having their name as part of 
>> the source name.  Thanks, Jerry /MerriamFamilyTree.org
>>
>> Alan Jones<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen a few recent posts about how people name their actual file
>>> names for source files.  I asked a related question sometime back and
>>> based on some responses I came up with a format.  This format I came up
>>> with I have stared using but am still trying to work though details.
>>>
>>> I in the interest of giving back to both those that helped me and others
>>> that may be wanting to see what I did below is the format I have tried
>>> to use.  The format may be hard to read as i stripped the HTML out.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps someone and I would love to hear other peoples
>>> thoughts on this style.  Email me on or off list as appropriate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Source Name Filing System
>>>
>>>
>>> *Format*
>>> Naming format, will use sub directories to group many like items for
>>> easier searching.  Use "__" (underscore) for spaces i.e. between first
>>> and last name and middle name.  Use a dash between fields (name vs
>>> record type).
>>>
>>>
>>>      Document Type (abbreviation)
>>>      "-" (dash)
>>>      Last name of person (as listed in document married if applicable)
>>>      "_" (underscore)
>>>      First Name
>>>      "_"
>>>      Middle initial (or full name if others are similar)
>>>      "-" dash"
>>>      RIN (Record Identification Number) use minimum of 4 numbers for RIN
>>>      "-" dash
>>>
>>>      [rest optional]
>>>      -- (two dashes if naming a 2nd person like a marriage document)
>>>      <<repeat Last, First, Middle name and RIN section if needed>>
>>>
>>>      <<optional "-" dash and letter (a-z) if there is more than one
>>>      document of a type use consecutive letters.
>>>      If documents are variations of the same document in some
>>>      cases use the same letter then a consecutive number
>>>       >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Examples:*
>>> OBIT-Doe_John_B-1234-a.pdf
>>> OBIT-Doe_John_B-1234-b.pdf
>>>
>>> MAR-Doe_John_B-1234--Smith_Sally_J-9876-a.pdf
>>>
>>> AWD-Jones_Jerry_G-0002-a.jpg
>>> AWD-Jones_Jerry_G-0002-b.jpg
>>> AWD-Jones_Jerry_G-0002-b1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> *Source Abbreviations Used*
>>>
>>> AWD -- Awards and Special Recognitions
>>> BIB -- Family Bible
>>> BR -- Birth Record including Birth Certificate, Birth Announcement, etc
>>> CHUR -- Church Related Document
>>> CEN -- Census Related document (not sure on naming as it may have
>>> multiple people
>>> DIP -- Diploma or related document for High School, Collage (undergrad
>>> or graduate), etc
>>> SCH -- School Related document if not a Diploma
>>> FB -- Facebook Related Source Document
>>> MAR -- Marriage Related Source Document
>>> OBIT -- Obituary from Newspaper, Funeral Home, or related source
>>> PIC -- Picture, used for the 1-5 select pictures of a person stored as
>>> source material.  Some pictures may have witting on them.
>>>
>>>
>>> RIN -- Record Identification Number, when typing RIN for source
>>> documents enter minimum of 4 numbers and proceed with 0 if the RIN is
>>> smaller.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Document Format and Manipulation*
>>> Most documents should be storied in PDF Format.
>>>
>>> To Reduce the number of documents in some cases one may want to combine
>>> 2 or more PDF Documents into one document.  Tools like PDFsam
>>> http://www.pdfsam.org/ and jPdf Tweak http://jpdftweak.sourceforge.net/
>>> can be use to combine/split PDFs.
>>>
>>>
>>> If needed use a tool like PDFCreator from http://www.pdfforge.org/ to
>>> convert a document convert a document/web page to PDF.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Additional Notes*
>>> Still working out how to deal with documents where multiple family
>>> members are mentioned in a single document.  EX: Census documents,
>>> family bibles, etc.
>>> Use Just a last name and something else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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