1/ Many of the tester agree with you wholeheartedly that we would like the granularity of the relinker to be smaller.But for various technical and other reasons, that is what it is. At first, it did not even give us a choice of drives and just did them all.
--> "Lost" media have been one of the most prevalent problem for Legacy users in the past. Folks would "hide" their media in the weirdest places. And them move PCs and could not find them. A major motivation for Relinker and Media Gatherer is to try to solve that problem.
2/ I do not know why you were not seeing success and having one link cascade to many links. This will take more analysis than I can help with on this list and would need some private messages with support to dive into details.
But, I think that likely most folks, even those with situations like yours, have been successful.
When you deleted the other two copies, did the relinker work correctly or did you still have to go through 600 relinks.
How many subfolders do you have the files in?
I personally have done it so many times...
I asked you a couple of questions in my previous email. That information might help folks diagnose what is going on.
john.
At 06:00 PM 12/3/2013, Wesley Johnston wrote:
OK, I am glad that you clarified this.
Unfortunately, the level of granularity of the Media Relinker is still the entire hard drive -- which is a 2TB drive. So it took a long time to scan it. But even worse, in addition to the live Legacy database photo collection, it found two copies that I had saved from earlier versions. So it was going to have me going through every single photo pair and designate the right one. The button to tell it to use this one and take the rest from the same file structure was useless. It still asked me pair after pair after pair, without setting the file structure to the folder that all the correct files were in. It would have been VERY much nicer if that button to choose that image and have it really set that folder for all the other ones. But it did not do what I thought that the text on the button was saying it was going to do. The result was that clicking either of the top two buttons in Media Relinker's options for that image of the pair did exactly the same thing ... resulting in the need for me to go through more than 600 pairs one by one.
Fortunately for me, I was able to make the decision to abandon and delete the two earlier versions and then re-run the image linker.
I really would like to use option 6.2 somehow. And one of the other users who replied to this thread suggested pointing option 6.2 to my Pix folder and then knowing that you have to navigate to the other media folders.
While that is a method that, though a bit of a kludge, will work, I am willing to experiment with working with that for a while to see if it really will work as I would like.
Legacy really dropped the ball by failing to provide a guideline that was obviously going to be needed when you eliminated the customization options. It may work okay for some people, but it sure did not work right for me and required a great deal of frustration and effort when it did not work.
From: Brian/Support <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating Pictures etc from 7.5 Folder to 8 Media Folder
You misunderstand the relinker. It searches the entire drive yes but it
is only looking for the filenames for the media you have linked to your
family file already. It builds a catalog of all the files with that name
for the locations on that drive. It will then let YOU tell it which of
the locations where it found that file is the correct location. If it
only finds one copy of that filename on the drive that will be the
location it sets for that media.
Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[email protected]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
On 03/12/2013 11:56 AM, Wesley Johnston wrote:
> I am still not clear what to do here.
>
> I see that the Option 6.2 is for those people willing to let Legacy manage their media and store it all in a single location, which may be what I wind up being forced to do, even though it will cause a great deal of immediate term work and a lot more on-going management effort on my part because everything is lumped together in one enormous folder with no way other than file name and file type to distinguish people pix from source pix from video clips from location pix ...
>
>
> That is because the Media Relinker tool does not seem to have a granularity finer than entire disk drive level. My K drive is not exclusively for my Legacy files. So there are tens of thousands of other media files on the K drive that I do not want include in the search by the Media Relinker. But there seems to be no way to do that. Am I missing something about how to configure the Media Relinker, or is it going to look at my entire K drive? The notion that any media file on my computer or on a particular drive is fair game for Legacy makes Legacy a very nasty neighbor.
>
>
> It looks like I am either being forced to either (a) dedicate my entire K drive to Legacy by the Media Relinker looking only at the entire drive and not at a specific designated folder and all of its sub-folders or (b) dump all my files into a single Media folder, dealing with file name duplications in the short term and a massive hodge-podge of files on an on-going basis for as long as I use Legacy in the future.
>
> Are these really my only two choices?
>
>
> If those are really what I am being forced to do, then I will have to go with B, ugly as it is.
>
> Whatever you were thinking when you convinced yourselves that this extremely significant migration issue should be glossed over and not fully addressed in your announcements and testing and advance online support considerations was a self-delusion. It is one thing to create new features and ways of doing things. It is another when you do not fully disclose and support the upgrade from prior versions and leave so much work to your customers, work for which there is no guidance already in place for such an obvious issue.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Brian/Support < [email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating Pictures etc from 7.5 Folder to 8 Media Folder
>
>
> Legacy 8, like 7.5 is quite happy to use multiple folders for media but
> Legacy 8 now uses the Windows Standards for storing user data and
> programs instead of a special C:\Legacy folder for the program and sub
> folders of C:\Legacy for Data, and media.
>
> The Legacy 8 program is installed in the Windows Program Files folders
> and for user data we create a set of folders under your Windows User
> name in the My Documents. Use the Media Relinker tool, Limit the search
> to your K: drive and Legacy 8 will find all your existing locations and
> use them for your existing media.
>
> The Options you mention are for those users who are content to let
> Legacy manage their media and store it all in a single location. You can
> set that to the top folder in your K: drive media tree, if there is one
> and Legacy will then open that default when you store new media, you can
> then navigate from there to the folder where you want to store, or have
> stored the new media you are adding.
>
> The ff and gbl notation on options indicates whether an option is
> specific to the current family file or is a global setting which applies
> to all family files.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> [email protected]
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 03/12/2013 7:02 AM, Wesley Johnston wrote:
>> I am not at all clear on the new file structure within Legacy 8 and what I need to do to migrate all my folders of Pictures, Videos, Sounds. And right now this is a show stopper. I have no idea what I am doing nor how to get things right in the conversion and migration.
>>
>> I keep all my Legacy files on a different hard drive (K) than the default. There, under Legacy, I have folders for Geo, Pix, Sounds, Videos ... which were the Legacy 7.5 file structure.
>>
>> When I opened one of my existing FDB files in Legacy 8 (by navigating to the K drive using the Windows dialog box within Legacy), I was asked to convert the file and given three options, I chose "just convert my family file and open it" since I do not want the files to wind up in the My Documents folder.
>>
>> It was only when I went into Options / Customize / 6. Locations that I discovered that there are no longer specific folders for each media type. Instead option 6.2 only points to "media files (ff)" (and I have no idea what "(ff)" means nor the "(gbl)" in options 6.1 and 6.3.
>>
>> So what am I supposed to do?
>>
>> It looks like I am supposed to create a new folder named Media on my K drive under my Legacy folders and then move all my Pix, Videos, Sources, Geo files into this folder???? But that means lumping all my source pix and my people pix into the same massive collection of files, making this media folder an enormous mess and raising the possibility of duplicate file names coming from within the previously separate Legacy 7.5 folders.
>>
>> I definitely do NOT want Legacy 8 pointing to the default media folder on the C drive. I want all my media files -- preferably kept in good order in separate folders as with prior versions of Legacy -- on my K drive.
>>
>> I have been through many Legacy versions, but this one is very definitely not trivial nor transparent. This appears to involve major restructuring of the underlying folders in a radically different way than prior versions handled media files. And I am staggered at the apparent implications of this -- both in the effort to migrate the files to a "media" folder and in the mess that a single media folder creates -- and also stunned at the complete absence of any explicit addressing of this issue on the Legacy web site's announcement of Legacy 8.
>
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