Sorry...I forgot one point.  There should be a date in the location record to 
indicate when the geo-code was set for that location.  That way, a "current" 
location set today can easily be re-evaluated in 10 years as an old location 
that needs to be re-verified.


On , Ron Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:



Jay,
It looks like you're on the same highway that I've been down.  When you report 
the location from the Master Locations List, include the "L" column letter so 
we can tell where the geo-code may have originated.  An "L" means it came from 
the Geo-Database.  A "V" means it came from the Virtual Earth maps (now called 
Bing maps).  The "?" means that Bing maps could not resolve it when it was 
queried.  The blank is supposed to mean that the location has not been looked 
up in any geo-code table yet.  The minus sign means the user told Legacy not to 
geo-code the location.

Then the adventure begins.  You would assume that if a location were resolved 
by a geo-code lookup that it would be the actual location.  As you pointed out, 
that is not always the case.  I too have found locations with Bing maps that 
were in the middle of a lake or out in the ocean.  Some locations that were 
resolved were on another continent.  

One bug that persists in Legacy is the over-ride that happens when a location 
that has already been geo-coded by the geo-database is looked up in Bing maps.  
The "L" is simply replaced by the "V" without any interaction with the user.  
And if a location with "V" is looked up in the geo-database, the "V" is not 
changed to "L".  If more geo-code tables are introduced, this behavior must be 
corrected.

The second thing that really needs to be done is a way to get the geo-code 
tables corrected when they are known to be wrong.  The geo-database appears to 
have this capability but I can't remember when it has ever been used and the 
current version has removed reference to the update possibility.  Bing maps are 
accessed through the internet and I don't know if any protocol exists for 
updating them.

A final bug that probably will never be fixed is the display of the stick pin 
on a location.  If you were to use your own map and stick pins, you would 
logically push the pin into the map with the point of the pin to indicate the 
location.  Look at where the point of the stick pin is compared to where the 
location is on the Legacy maps.  It does not matter how much you zoom.  The 
point is not "pointing" to the location.

With all of that, there is only one tag field in the Master Locations table.  
It can be used for some advantage but tools are lacking.  When combining files, 
it is a good idea to set all the location tags for the master file, clear the 
tags for the import file, then after finishing your merge, you can check out 
the remaining un-tagged locations to see if any of them could be geo-coded or 
otherwise corrected.  Then with some editing, they might merge with some of the 
tagged locations.  It would be nice if Legacy could highlight the un-tagged 
locations so they would stand out when viewing the list.

As far as geo-coding in bulk, that would be a dream.  But it would be 
interesting if a Master Locations table could be verified against a known to be 
accurate geo-code table and set the tags or verified flags based on exact 
matches.  Then again have some highlighting tools to show those that did not 
match at all or were close but not exact.  

Read elsewhere what I've described about time sensitive location names.  It can 
be done but not in the current version.  And that leaves the "location 
modifiers" that need attention too.
Ron Taylor


On Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:23 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree <[email protected]> 
wrote:





Has anyone found a way to review large numbers of Place Location Geo-Coded 
placement without having to do one location at a time? 


I have almost 10,000 places and  I am constantly finding Geo -Code errors. 

For example I have two locations in my list 

Alban, South Dakota                      44.4361381666667   -100.230491666667
Alban, Grant, South Dakota             44.6187705555556   -89.2845230555556

Yes, these should be merged, but they make a great example here 

Legacy Geo-coded the them as listed above.

The first one, Alban, South Dakota  points to center of the state and has the 
same coordinates that is used by the state generic South Dakota   
44.4361416666667   -100.230451111111

In other words the geo coding did not find the correct place except to place 
the pin at the center of the state, which would be OK IF there was some 
disclaimer or notation somewhere. 


The second one is geo-coded to  Alban, Portage County, WISCONSIN

Why, is Geo coding setting wrong places?? 

(According to Google the coordinates for Alban, South Dakota are 
45.1952395,-96.546404)


With no tool to at least review the places in some sort of batch (like maybe 25 
places on a page each with a small map of the geo-coded place. 

At least then I might have picked up that one of these was pointing to 
wisconsin and not South Dakota. 


One at a time review is just not a viable option. 

 
Anyone have any workable solutions? 

Thanks in advance for any help. 

Jay 



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