A further problem with "widely available" is -- sort of depends on too many things. F'instance, /The Times of India/ is widely available in repositories in India; not so much here in the States.
Additionally, many libraries today are thinning out their physical collection of out-dated materials to make room for newer material, which makes what was widely available in 1972 a bit less widely available today. IF you can determine that the publication is available at one of the 4 or 5 largest libraries in your country, the least you can do for the researcher 50 years from now is name one of 'em. How much space can it take to tuck in "LOC", "FHL", "DARHQ", FtWayne, or Claiton? Safe over sorry, safe over easy. Cheryl BARTON LEWIS wrote: > I checked Shown Mills and at Section 2.19, as indicated by > Michelle. She says "When citing books, film and other > published film materials that are widely available, the name > of the repository at which we use the source is not included > in our formal citation" [emphasis mine]. Mills seems to > justify this by saying that "while we may wish to include > the repository at which we found the publication, simply as > an aid in case we need to reconstruct it ... a citation to > the facility most convenient to us personally would be of > little value to users of our work who live elsewhere." This > overlooks the fact that is not necessary to be in close > physical proximity to a source to make use of it. For my > obit searches, I call or write libraries all the time and > retrieve them that way. Also, there is a wide variance on > who holds older obits from state to state -- including > Archives, libraries, genealogical societies, or the > newspapers themselves. I prefer to list the repository. When > entering the repository in the Repository tab as Sherry > directed, and when doing so in the Master Source comment box > as Tom directed, neither show up in the Output. It would be > nice if the repository could be shown -- why force someone > to start making inquiries all over the place if they see the > 1947 obit of their great aunt as a source? > > Barton > > > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote: > > Yes you can add the Newspaper as the Master Source. This > is what I do. > There are templates for Newspapers as Barton indicates. > There are a number of different ones depending on how > you are accessing the newspaper. > > Cathy > > Tom Momeyer wrote: >> >> Thanks Michele, for your explanation below. In >> addition to your comments, it may be helpful to save >> notes where the "published material" was viewed for >> later review or re-use. So, as new to Legacy, anyone >> feel free to correct any following mistakes, and I'll >> learn more about Legacy. For a repository location >> (where no record is required for published material) >> It looks like you can save notes for the location of >> the viewed material where the notes are not printed in >> reports, etc. >> >> So, going out on a limb, anyone please correct as >> needed... Options when adding the obit: >> >> (1) Add the obit as a master source and in the Master >> Source Definition, Text/Comments tab, in the (lower >> large box for user input) "Comments about this master >> source" box, type in the notes for the viewed location. >> >> Or >> >> (2) Add the newspaper as a master source (is this >> possible?) and in the Source Detail, Text/Comments >> tab, in the (lower large box for user input) "Enter >> any comments about this citation" box, type in the >> notes for the viewed location. >> >> Also (for both options above), check or uncheck the >> boxes below the typed notes indicating whether to >> include in reports (or not). So, if later on, you or >> someone else asks and you want to review the item >> again, you have "notes" recorded regarding where you >> viewed the material. >> >> Also (for both options above), there is an option to >> add a file ID# for a saved copy (digital or printed) >> of the obit. >> >> Tom M >> (TMG user, evaluating other software for eventual >> transition) >> >> On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Michele/Support wrote: >> >>> >>> According to Evidence Explained (section 2.19, Citing >>> Repositories), >>> if you are looking at a source (of published >>> material) that is >>> available at multiple repositories you do not need to >>> include the name >>> of the repository in the citation. If this newspaper >>> was on microfilm >>> it should also be available (at the very least) at >>> the Arkansas State >>> Archives and at least one of the state universities. >>> If you were >>> looking at the actual newspaper, it would, most >>> likely, still be >>> available on microfilm. The reason I specified >>> "published material" >>> (such as a newspaper) then this rule holds true. If >>> you were talking >>> about something like a unique manuscript that is only >>> in one place you >>> would have to cite the repository. >>> >>> Michele >>> Technical Support >>> [email protected] >>> www.legacyfamilytree.com* >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BARTON LEWIS [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 10:19 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source question - obits >>> >>> I posted a query about obituaries on Tuesday night >>> but it never >>> posted. I don't know why not, but here goes again: >>> >>> I was entering an obituary as a source, and using the >>> Source Writer. >>> The obit was at a local library in Arkansas. I >>> selected "Newspapers - >>> print editions - (microfilm or original)." As I went >>> through the >>> fields for both source and detail, I did not see a >>> field where I could >>> enter in the repository - the name of the public >>> library where the >>> obituary was held. Should that not be an included >>> piece of >>> information? >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Barton Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
