Don,

One of the your other respondents said "whatever
floats your boat". I both agree with this
sentiment and disagree with such a practice.

An important element in treating unknown names is
that you are consistent within your own data. I
have seen trees where the user used ?, Unknown, Unk, Lnu all within same tree.

As I shared in a previous message, I invented
[--?--] as my unknown surname almost 20 years
ago. I created it to have a consistent unknown
surname in my data. I wished it to distinctive
enough so that it would stand out in a report as
being obviously a placeholder for some unknown
(or unknowable or non-existent) surname. I also
wished all people with such a surname to sort
together at either the top or bottom of the Name
List or Index View. I did not wish to use a word
like "Unknown" or "Unk" or "Lnu" or "NN" so there
could never be confusion about those words being
a real surname. And ? or ??? just visually did not work for me.

I began using this and posted some trees using
this option in the mid 1990s and then mentioned
it in a few RootsWeb posts. About 5 years later,
an article was written somewhere analyzing what
people were using in the RootsWeb WorldConnect
database for unknown surnames and to my surprise
the author mentioned that my invention was in the
top 5 in use there and that in her opinion, it
was technically one of the best choices. That was
10 years ago, and I am slowly seeing other
researchers publish articles using [--?--]. It is
not a standard, and I doubt that it would ever be, but it is my standard.

Further, I set a few other standards for
recording data. One was that I would never record
a spouseless relationship. All children have to
have a Mommy and Daddy, even if Daddy is some
anonymous (for now :) ) sperm donor. I decided
that I would always create an individual with an
unknown name to fill in that position.

--> A corollary reason I did this was in part I
did not like how Gedcom imports and exports by
some vendors treated these relationship and that
in some cases the genealogy got screwed up.
Making sure that you always have a person in that
missing slot eliminates that possibility of error.

I also set a personal standard that all people
would have a given name and a surname. Gedcom
again motivated this. Just last week I received a
Gedcom from a person in New Zealand from a family
file created with Family Tree Maker. Two wives
were only entered with their first names. When
the Gedcom was imported into Legacy, those first
names became surnames. The fault lay in the way FTM exported the Gedcom.

However, I first saw this type of problem in the
1990s so this is not a new problem, but, if a
user is not careful, they could be perpetuating
errors. Again, to minimize risk of errors, I
established my own standard that all individuals
would have a given name and a surname.

I have already described the unknown surname as
[--?--]. What I did with an unknown given name is
best described as a desire to impart as much data
in the unknown given name. I could just continue
to use [--?--] (as some folks do), but then a
viewer seeing the [--?--] would not automatically know it was a surname.

I established these standards: First, if I knew
the gender of the individual, the unknown given
name should reflect that gender. Second, if the
given name was unknown but the person was a child
of a couple, the name would reflect being a
child; if the unknown name was because of a
marriage, it would better reflect that. So, I use
"Mister" and "Miss" for unknown given names for
marriage partners and "Son" and "Daughter" for
children. If the child's gender is not
documented, I will use "Child" or "Infant", the
latter when I have reasonable evidence the child
was stillborn or died very young.

Legacy 8, in its great wisdom, created a tool so
that when a user has such standards, the PP Alert
flag will be able to ignore them. In your My
Documents/_AppData folder, you can add a text
file called UnknownName.txt. In this you can
document what you are using for such unknown
names. (See the Help pages on PP Alerts to see
how to construct such a file). This is what mine looks like:

Miss Mister Daughter Son Child Infant
[--?--]

OK?

john.


At 01:23 PM 3/27/2015, Don Quigley wrote:
>Some of the recent messages have prompted this
>more general question I have about how to enter
>“names” for unknown persons in Legacy,
>particularly for persons with no known given or
>surname.  This situation typically arises for a
>female with no known surname, for whom I have
>information about her parents that I want to
>record and have in the database when (if) I find
>the missing names.  I also need parents for
>siblings to be linked, even if their surnames are unknown.
>
>I have always used ??? as the unknown given
>and/or surname for a person.  Legacy warns me
>against doing so, but allows me to do
>it.  However, if I leave both fields blank,
>Legacy will prevent me from saving the person.
>
>For me, ??? seems to work well, but I’ve often
>wondered why does Legacy (and other geneaology
>sources) warn against the use of a questionmark
>in a name?  Are they just referring to the
>practice of trying to show uncertainty about a
>name – i.e., John Smith?.  I don’t do that.
>
>Donald Quigley
>Escondido, CA
>Quigley Doyle Family Tree
>http://www.donquigley.net
>
>
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